Canon 7d mk ii, why so many for sale

I will say this: I don't plan on selling my 7D2 for quite some time. I am enjoying its use. It's not just a sports or birding camera, though it excels at both those genres of photography. I'm using it for interiors (kitchens) and the odd landscape I shoot.

That said, I know there are many very content 1D IV owners out there as well. I've never shot one but it's pretty amazing that it is still that good after, what, 6 years, as was mentioned above?

PCousins wrote in post #17658767
t's incredible to think that the 1d4 is now coming upto 6 years old whereas the 7d2 is about 1 year old yet they are compared continuously in performance although they have different digic processors and technologies. The 1d4 is still a very popular camera and still goes for very good money

mwsilver wrote in post #17658878
Keep in mind that in several respects the 7DII is also being compared favorably as a not so little brother to the 1DX. Not too shabby when you consider the 7DII is available at B&H for $1500, and the 1DX for 3 &1/2 times more at $5300.

Spot on. Remember, the 1D4 - a great camera - is only a 16MP sensor (this is one way to keep the FPS up) and as a 1.3x crop camera has larger pixels than the 7D2. Hence for some applications it will still provide great image quality as well as noise performance. It will not resolve as well as the 1Dx or 7D2 though, and it is much less effective in applications like astrophotography where the 7D2 is currently the best (due to its extraordinarily low read noise).

Bottom line: know what you need from a camera and don't expect one to solve all your photography problems just because it's newer; you're still responsible for the end result. The 7D2, as was pointed out above, has very different sensitivity settings compared to the older systems; I transferred my 5D3 AF settings over verbatim and still needed to make changes to get the best performance out of my 7D2. It's the first camera I've ever owned that I can just pick up and shoot, knowing that it has been configured to my style and will capture the most keepers.

I'm sure that there are a multitude of reasons why some folk are moving them on.

Complexity....
The 7D2 would be challenging to someone moving up from a lesser spec'd body and not everyone has the patience.

Its peers (1Dx and 5D3)....
Whilst the AF was marketed as being on par with its peers, it does seem to have more trouble than them when tracking subjects.

Expectations....
1Dx and 5D3 users were hoping for a crop sensored body that could compete and add something to the repetoire.

Faulty/bad examples.....
It's clear that there are many experienced users who can't get the required or advertised performance from their 7D2 and there doesn't seem to be a common solution to the problems being experienced.

My 7D2 was fine in 'one shot' but failed miserably when tracking a simple subject in AIservo, something that isn't an issue with the 1Dx's, or the older system of the 1D4, and it ended up being 4th in the pecking order whenever I went out.

Bob

Going back to the OP.........

mark2009 wrote in post #17658559
Have been watching the sell board, seems like a lot of mk ii for sale? Is it a disappointment?

I looked into why peoples had sold on their 7d mk II's there were several comments referring to "Going Over to Sony" or "Moving to Nikon".

As I previously mentioned I am looking for a 1d4 but prices are very very high and they are hard to find a V.Good one and 7d2's are going for very reasonable prices and not that old and plenty of them for sale.

Yes both the 1d4 and 7d2 are great camera's, If I do decide to go for the 7d2 to compliment my FF canon body, then I have to ask the question if the 7d2 is such a great camera then why and for what reason would people go over to Sony for

Please can any members explain this as I am totally unfamiliar with Sony Camera's.

PCousins wrote in post #17659054
....for what reason would people go over to Sony for

Please can any members explain this as I am totally unfamiliar with Sony Camera's.

Possibly the cheapest option to use existing Canon lenses without paying 1Dx or 5D3 money.

Bob

PCousins wrote in post #17659054
Going back to the OP.........

I looked into why peoples had sold on their 7d mk II's there were several comments referring to "Going Over to Sony" or "Moving to Nikon".

As I previously mentioned I am looking for a 1d4 but prices are very very high and they are hard to find a V.Good one and 7d2's are going for very reasonable prices and not that old and plenty of them for sale.

Yes both the 1d4 and 7d2 are great camera's, If I do decide to go for the 7d2 to compliment my FF canon body, then I have to ask the question if the 7d2 is such a great camera then why and for what reason would people go over to Sony for

Please can any members explain this as I am totally unfamiliar with Sony Camera's.

Sony sensors have a wider dynamic range and they are smaller and lighter. It doesn't mean their cameras are better on an absolute basis or meet the specific needs of every photographer. Additionally some people just like the latest innovations and all the bells and whistles.

I don't think a Sony camera with adapted Canon lens will meet the needs of the 7D2's target audience. That's why.

I pulled the trigger on brand new 7d2 for 1150. For that price why not... it'll be for sale soon lol. I'm a gear junkie

Talley wrote in post #17659423
I pulled the trigger on brand new 7d2 for 1150. For that price why not... it'll be for sale soon lol. I'm a gear junkie

Curious...did you go through Greentoe? Have seen $1149 as the lowest (Gray market) which is ok by me.

mark2009 wrote in post #17658559
Have been watching the sell board, seems like a lot of mk ii for sale? Is it a disappointment?

G.A.S. for people who probably don't shoot often, or already had a 1D series.

Very best,

With the increased owner base of the new 5d series, people no longer need the 7d2 for its effective reach, you get basically the same result now with the full camera. Perhaps that is a reason for some of the liquidation of the 7d2?

TeamSpeed wrote in post #17660550
With the increased owner base of the new 5d series, people no longer need the 7d2 for its effective reach, you get basically the same result now with the full camera. Perhaps that is a reason for some of the liquidation of the 7d2?

Not sure I understand your logic. Are you suggesting the 5DS R with it's bigger sensor will allow crops equal to the 20mp 7D2 so there is no advantage to using a crop body for greater apparent reach? Even so, there are plenty of other reasons to use a 7D Mark II rather than a 5DS R.

mwsilver wrote in post #17660557
Not sure I understand your logic. Are you suggesting the 5DS R with it's bigger sensor will allow crops equal to the 20mp 7D2 so there is no advantage to using a crop body for greater apparent reach? Even so, there are plenty of other reasons to use a 7D Mark II rather than a 5DS R.

That is exactly what I mean, those owners have already done those tests and posted the results here. The results were remarkably similar, even at iso 6400. Yes there are other reasons to own a 7d2, but not everyone may appreciate the fact, or need to use those features.

TeamSpeed wrote in post #17660703
That is exactly what I mean, those owners have already done those tests and posted the results here. The results were remarkably similar, even at iso 6400. Yes there are other reasons to own a 7d2, but not everyone may appreciate the fact, or need to use those features.

For alot of owners I could see that.

I still bought mine for reach, FPS, and the menu options that derived from the 1dx series. The fact that it does excellent video is a plus too. I'll use the 7D2 for video of my kids choir/plays and the 5D3 for photos now.

TeamSpeed wrote in post #17660550
With the increased owner base of the new 5d series, people no longer need the 7d2 for its effective reach, you get basically the same result now with the full camera. Perhaps that is a reason for some of the liquidation of the 7d2?

I kind of doubt it, resolution is hardly why people are attracted to the 7D2 in general (it's barely a wee bit more than the original 7D). I would guess, loosely, that most people going after the 7D2 want it's AF engine (which the 5DR/S lacks) and FPS (which the 5DR/S lacks).

Very best,