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Switching from Sony to Canon Maybe

 
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Aug 14, 2015 17:29 |  #1

Currently have a Sony DSC-HX200 Cybershot. Has a tilt out LCD screen (important to me), setting wheel for A, S, M, Scn, etc. on top and 30X zoom. Had to buy adapter to attach hood and other lenses. Wasn't cheap! I have never been totally happy with the pictures from the Sony. Could someone recommend a comparable Cannon? I don't want a camera that requires changing lenses. The way we travel, I don't have time to be changing lenses. Also hoping the Cannon already has lens grooves for a hood, polarizer, UV filter, etc., without having to buy an adapter. Suggestions would be appreciated. a comparable Nikon didn't get that great a review.




  
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Aug 15, 2015 09:18 |  #2

What exactly weren't you happy with in terms of the photos that were being taken? You're not going to find a material difference in image quality between these long-range zoom P&S cameras TBH. If anything, Sony has better sensors and should have an advantage in this area, but its immaterial.

To see a more material impact to IQ, you'll have to move to a larger sensor P&S camera. These larger sensors gather more light, and as such, have better IQ. The downside is that larger sensors require more glass, so to keep the the size and cost reasonable, the lenses tend to be shorter (less zoom capability).


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Aug 15, 2015 10:13 |  #3

you're basically shooting a point and shoot camera with ultrazoom.

Basically, you want a larger sensor if you want noticeable increase in image quality, brands alone will make little difference.

I dont know of too many point and shoots with large sensors tbh.

You could venture into the world of dslr's or mirrorless with single super zooms and get an astronomical boost in image quality. No need to ever change lenses in the field. I mention it because the price of these subcompacts can get really high, well into DSLR territory. For instance, a Canon SL1 + Tamron 16-300 would cost as much as the panasonic fz1000, and likely give you much better IQ. The sensor is just so much larger.

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Aug 16, 2015 08:33 |  #4

Thanks everyone. You gave me some good info to consider.




  
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Aug 16, 2015 15:10 |  #5

I'll add that just because you buy a camera with changeable lenses doesn't mean you have to change them. You could just buy a large zoom and leave it on the camera.

A small DSLR or mirrorless camera with a large zoom on it would be the same size as most "superzoom" bridge cameras while offering potentially much higher IQ.

A Canon SL1 and Tamron 18-270mm comes to mind, or a micro 4/3 camera with a 14-140mm.


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Aug 16, 2015 17:35 |  #6

If I was to have only one camera, it would be the Sony RX10 or RX10 mk2.


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Aug 21, 2015 04:20 |  #7

The EOS M3 with the Tamron 18-200 zoom might be a good fit for your needs. It gives you DSLR image quality from a camera the size of a large P&S.


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Aug 25, 2015 04:28 |  #8

mocelet wrote in post #17677295 (external link)
The EOS M3 with the Tamron 18-200 zoom might be a good fit for your needs. It gives you DSLR image quality from a camera the size of a large P&S.

Take note that to use the Tamron or other non EOS-M lenses on EOS M cameras, OP needs to buy a lens mount adapter. Here in Japan, the lens mount alone costs about $100.

I second the EOS M3 (I have one), although if OP wants something even more portable he can go with the older generation EOS M2 or EOS M. Those models have a true point-and-shoot form factor while having manual controls with changeable lenses (of course you don't have to change lenses if you don't want to). However the EOS M body is so compact that telephoto lenses like the Tamron 18-200 would look humongous and out-of-balance on an EOS M/M2. I am also not sure how a 3rd party lens would interact with the EOS M-autofocus could be a tad slow.

EOS M3 is significantly larger and and beefier than the older generations, and I find the form factor to be between a lightweight entry-level DSLR and an advanced Point-and-shoot.

I personally think that if you are planning on sticking to only one lens with the EOS M, your best bet is a pancake prime lens, EF-M 22mm f/2 STM (35 mm equivalent).

EDIT: Never mind, I found out that the EOS mount and Tamron 18-200 are significantly cheaper than I thought. OP should consider this combination with an EOS M camera.




  
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Aug 27, 2015 01:18 as a reply to  @ marimorimo's post |  #9

I was meaning the EF-M 18-200 lens (external link) from Tamron, so no adapter would be required.

Yes, I agree that the 22 is a great all purpose lens, and even on the M3 it fits in a small bag or large pocket.


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Aug 27, 2015 21:28 |  #10

casimpson wrote in post #17669038 (external link)
Currently have a Sony DSC-HX200 Cybershot. Has a tilt out LCD screen (important to me), setting wheel for A, S, M, Scn, etc. on top and 30X zoom. Had to buy adapter to attach hood and other lenses. Wasn't cheap! I have never been totally happy with the pictures from the Sony. Could someone recommend a comparable Cannon? I don't want a camera that requires changing lenses. The way we travel, I don't have time to be changing lenses. Also hoping the Cannon already has lens grooves for a hood, polarizer, UV filter, etc., without having to buy an adapter. Suggestions would be appreciated. a comparable Nikon didn't get that great a review.

What exactly don't you like about Sony ?

I switched from a Canon DSLR to a Sony mirrorless two years ago, one thing I don't like about Sony is their skin tones (or more accurately, I really like Canon's skin tones and neither Sony nor Nikon work as well for me straight out of the camera). However everything else was on par or an improvement from my Rebel.

List the things you want and it's easier to figure what works for you.


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Aug 27, 2015 21:45 |  #11

Another vote for M3 +22mm pancake.


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Aug 27, 2015 22:01 |  #12

Amamba wrote in post #17685744 (external link)
What exactly don't you like about Sony ?

I switched from a Canon DSLR to a Sony mirrorless two years ago, one thing I don't like about Sony is their skin tones (or more accurately, I really like Canon's skin tones and neither Sony nor Nikon work as well for me straight out of the camera). However everything else was on par or an improvement from my Rebel.

List the things you want and it's easier to figure what works for you.

I'll second the skin tones comment, though I've found the a7S to be a whole lot better than the a7R I had before it. Canon's just get it right though... I loved my Fuji's colors best overall, but the Canon's just looked perfect in portraits, I rarely had to do any color correcting with them at all.


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Aug 28, 2015 15:33 as a reply to  @ Amamba's post |  #13

What I don't like is that the pictures just aren't clear enough for my liking unless it is outdoors and a perfect deep blue sky day. I usually wind up having to enhance every single picture after download. With as many pictures as I take, that gets very time consuming. However, I am still practicing and trying different things as I have learned more.

Also I do not like the idea that Sony doesn't repair their own cameras. I tried to get an estimate and was totally ignored even after weeks from an email sent to Precision Cameras. I only got a response after I complained to Sony, but by then wasn't willing to deal with unresponsive people.




  
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