What does Canon need to put on the 5D4?

Please get rid of the separate magnifying glass button on the left of the 5D3 and finger wheel to zoom. Revert back to making the FEL & focus point button do double duty as magnification buttons when reviewing images just like previous Canon bodies.

Canon_Shoe wrote in post #17669864
Yep Canon doesn't seem too concerned with DR. There was the rumor that the new 1 series would have "industry leading DR", so we shall see.

That's what chuck Westfall said about the 5D mark II, and we all know how good its DR is.

I was talking to another member and apparently true digital DR is limited right now at 14 stops since they use 14 bit RAW files. Will be interesting to see what happens in the future when the begin to break that 14 bit barrier like Nikon/Sony already have. Guess we'll have 16 bit files by then hopefully

With 14 bits and a blackpoint of 2048 (current Canon standard), you can get about 14.2 stops of DR without serious posterization of base-ISO deep shadows, and only about 13.4 stops without increased chromatic noise in deep base-ISO shadows due to mild quantization.

dexter75 wrote in post #17731919
There is nothing more overrated in the internet forum world of photography than DR, except maybe megapixel count. Its like Apple and Samsung geeks arguing about processor speeds in their phones and what phone can do something a nano second faster than another. How have pro photographers been taking such amazing, award winning sports, wildlife, portraits, landscape and journalistic photos for all these years with Canons and their low DR cameras?!

How many pictures have you seen that were never taken, because the photographer didn't think that they could take the picture? You are judging the world through a foggy lens of survivor bias. There was a lot of deleting done of 5D2 files which would have been keepers if taken with an Exmor sensor.

Also, most people have yet to figure out how to use a greater DR to their advantage, and anyone who thinks of DR as "one shot HDR" is missing a big part of what base-ISO DR is all about.

Honestly the 5D3 was an awesome camera, with only one shortcoming and that's the DR. Even a slight improvement on that front would be all I'd suggest. We know it's going to have amazing AF, good (if not great) video performance, great color rendition, build, reliability, etc. If I were designing one I'd go:

24-28mp
~13.5-14 stops DR
1DXII AF
6 or 7 fps
4k implementation (nothing fancy, just to show that they can do it)
dual CFast

tdlavigne wrote in post #17900174
dual CFast

How about one CF and one CFast? I'd hate to replace all of my cards all at once.

tdlavigne wrote in post #17900174
Honestly the 5D3 was an awesome camera, with only one shortcoming and that's the DR. Even a slight improvement on that front would be all I'd suggest. We know it's going to have amazing AF, good (if not great) video performance, great color rendition, build, reliability, etc. If I were designing one I'd go:

24-28mp
~13.5-14 stops DR
1DXII AF
6 or 7 fps
4k implementation (nothing fancy, just to show that they can do it)
dual CFast

mike_d wrote in post #17900185
How about one CF and one CFast? I'd hate to replace all of my cards all at once.

I suspect that dual CFast or CF + CFast may require too much space in the body. Not impossible they could squeeze it in though.

As for the AF, I'm not sure what they could do other than put in the 1DxII AF. The 5Ds and 7DII already have iTR (so they can't really leave that off, as they did with the 5D3 vs the 1Dx). A Canon site I saw intimated that the 1DxII had the improved iTR algorithm from the 7DII (the inference being that the 7DII implementation was better than the 1Dx).

I guess they could leave out f/8 on all points or something like that, but otherwise there's not much they could cut - otherwise it wouldn't look like an improvement (on paper) vs the 5D3. I do hope they give us the illuminated AF points in servo mode.

Personally I'm hoping for 28MP as I think that'd fit well in the current line up. Hopefully the DR improvements that appear to be on the 1DxII will be a given.

Replaceable dual slots like Nikon D5 would be nice . The ability to change the type of slots would be nice.

I think is was stated by Canon in the 5D3, that one SD+ one CF was in part because two Cf was to big for that size camera. I think 1 SD and 1 Cfast would be likely, but not 2 cfast or two CF.

I think the 1 CF one Cfast on the 1Dx is it's only flaw, should have been 2 cfast.

Fitting dual CF doesn't seem that unreasonable, though I would personally rather have dual SD slots.

Yeah, I don't buy the "it can't fit" theory. It sure as heck could fit in a 1D, and none of them ever had DUAL CF either.

CF and SD are a good compromise solution for a lot of reasons.

I have to admit I LOVE the idea of being to change to whichever pair you prefer!.

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #17901338
I have to admit I LOVE the idea of being to change to whichever pair you prefer!.

Is that in reference to the D5? All that I've read indicates that Nikon has two distinct separate bodies - 1 with dual CF and another with dual XQD. I've seen a few references in here around interchangeability of the slots but no links to any references from Nikon of such.

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CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #17901338
I have to admit I LOVE the idea of being to change to whichever pair you prefer!.

smythie wrote in post #17901592
Is that in reference to the D5? All that I've read indicates that Nikon has two distinct separate bodies - 1 with dual CF and another with dual XQD. I've seen a few references in here around interchangeability of the slots but no links to any references from Nikon of such.

I think it was in reference to this comment by Scorpio:

scorpio_e wrote in post #17900298
The ability to change the type of slots would be nice.

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Thanks Tom.