Mini-Review: 7D2 vs 5D3

I don't have a ton of time to put in the review material like I have in the past, but I ran 4 different tests this time around between the 7D2 and 5D3, both using the 70-200 II. I adjusted the raw parameters on one file, then copied those to the other raw to bring over the same WB, picture style, IQ parameters, 0 NR, etc.

1) Tried to get the same FOV between the 7D2 and 5D3 on a real world target, just to compare the two.
2) 7D2 at 200mm vs 5D3 with a 1.4x at 200mm (but a slower ISO to make up for the TC), just to see if a TC + FF can match the APS-C
3) ISO 6400 on both, shot raw, processed through DPP with no NR
4) ISO 6400 underexposed by 2 stops to check "forgiveness"


Results #1 (100% crop, 5D3 on left, 7D2 on right)

i agree with your review as i have both and yield the same results, nice mini write up!

Sorry, have you tried this comparison between these two cameras in the field od astrophotography?
I would be very interested in it because I have to buy my gear all over again (it was all stolen) and I have to choose between the 7D Mark II and the 5D Mark IIII ( or the case of FF the Nikon D750).

Thank you

Unfortunately that is an area of photography that I haven't had time to delve into. However this man has....
http://www.clarkvision​.com/reviews/index.htm​l

Great write up! I love my 7D2 and would love to eventually get a 5D3 once prices come down a little more.

Thanks for review can you please elaborate on what you mean with that "auto ISO capabilities are great" and compare the 2.

Hi Teamspeed,

Just a question, does both camera using the middle focus point?

Is it possible to test and compare the middle focus point and the the left and right outmost focus point on the 7D2 to see if it will get the same sharpness?

I just asked since I have a friend who is planning on getting the 7D2 coming from the classic 7D. On his 7D, the middle focus point always come sharper than either of his L/R focus point.


Thanks,
Christian

Hermelin wrote in post #17674751
Thanks for review can you please elaborate on what you mean with that "auto ISO capabilities are great" and compare the 2.

The 5D3 doesn't have auto ISO configurations like the 7D2 does, in fact you cannot even add EC to manual mode with auto ISO set. There isn't much of a comparison, as the only thing the 5D3 has is an ISO setting called Auto that you can set during manual.

The 7D2 has a configuration for auto-ISO, where you set a min shutter speed, or you can set shutter speed behavior in a pseudo auto mode (faster shutter vs slower shutter), and during manual mode, you can set EC for auto ISO. Finally, in the CF menu, you have the ability to lock in minimum shutter speeds of any value, minimum aperture settings, etc. This means you can configure manual, Av and Tv in any way you want using auto-ISO.

Keema wrote in post #17674756
Hi Teamspeed,

Just a question, does both camera using the middle focus point?

Is it possible to test and compare the middle focus point and the the left and right outmost focus point on the 7D2 to see if it will get the same sharpness?

I just asked since I have a friend who is planning on getting the 7D2 coming from the classic 7D. On his 7D, the middle focus point always come sharper than either of his L/R focus point.


Thanks,
Christian

It was middle AF, I can try to do the other test, but I never saw that situation with my various copies of the original 7D? I used those in sports and would often use the end AF points to track players, etc. It sounds like a defective 7D, and not something to be attributed to the entire 7D line, so I wouldn't be too worried.

TeamSpeed wrote in post #17674686
Unfortunately that is an area of photography that I haven't had time to delve into. However this man has....
http://www.clarkvision​.com/reviews/index.htm​l

Thank you

Very nice writeup, TeamSpeed. Much appreciated.

Have both and they are just fantastic cameras. 7D2 is my primary with the 400mm on the field and the 5D3 becomes my backup/wide body. Off the field, the 5D3 is becomes my workhorse.

I'm pretty much set for at least 2-3 years.

Bah, way to make me regret getting my 5D3. :-p

I mean, thanks!

Thanks, TeamSpeed. Your review matches my own experience. Last summer, I was shooting with a 70D and a 5D3. After getting the 7D2, I ended up selling the 5D3 after a few months. Most of the work that I do requires "reach," and the 7D2 provides that while still giving excellent image quality. My 70D is still great for landscapes and cityscapes. I don't do any portrait work, so the 5D3 ended up gathering dust. I have friends, though, who would never part with their 5D3s. It's nice that we have choices!

Regards, Jim

Thanks for posting TS!

I've been shooting the 7D2 almost exclusively these past months, and I have had no objections to bumping ISO up as needed, none what so ever. It performs better than most cameras I have owned.

They are indeed a great complementary pair. I'm delighted that I can pick up the camera which is most comfortable in each situation and just concentrate on getting the shot instead of worrying about lighting, ISO, etc.

I have had to pull a couple of 7D2 shots where my flash failed to fire and I was very impressed at how well it did for an exposure that shouldn't have been salvageable. Expose properly, and noise is quite tolerable at almost any ISO.

Agreed TS. Same conclusions. I have both and use both in my workflow. Im hesitant to go past 4000 with the 7D2 for wedding work and im pushing rt if i do.

also, have you or anyone noticed a green cast to the files. Auto AWB seems to work better for color..weird. So Im shooting a lot with K and correcting in post. My LCD it looks green and in post it looks green. My Only complaint. Great Camera.

17-55 is killer on the 7D2 for wedding togs. and the extra reach with the 70-200 and 100-400 is phenomenal