Samyang 14/2.8 or Tokina 16-28/2.8

Hello
I recently bought Canon 24-70/4L IS USM which is a very good and sharp lens. It covers a lot. I want to have focal lengths that will not clash so much with each other. Such as 17-40 and 24-70. I'll sell my 17-40 tomorrow and I'm thinking of three lenses that will be of landscape and night shots. Remember that I always use a tripod when it comes to this kind of photography.

My two options:
Samyang 14 / 2.8 or Tokina 16-28 / 2.8.

I have never photographed manually only used mf function on my af lens. It might not be such a big difference in this type of photography? An advantage of Samyang also is that the filter holder is possible ..

The Tokina is a zoom and I like zooming. The clash is not much with the Canon 24-70 either. Have no problem with the weight either. But no ND filter.

What do you think?

Those are two entirely different lenses. I own the 17-40 and Rok 14. One does not replace the other. Manual focus is a non-issue at 14mm, but that is my opinion, and may not be yours.

I've had my Rokinon 14 for about a year. I don't see a way to mount a filter on it. I guess you could rig up some sort of external contraption. But you could do the same for the 16-28.

Yeah ok. But Samyang does sell a holder especially for the 14mm: https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=Slho4QzTcxw.
But what do you have to say about the Samyang then?

I don't use any filters on my Rokinon 14mm. How is this setup different than a Cokin setup-up on the 16-28? Same-same, if you ask me. In that light, both lenses take filters. It still comes down to 14mm is a bunch wider than 16mm, do you need a zoom, are you OK with manual focus?

I use the rok 14 and have a filter from behind the lens, works very well.

I went with the Tokina. I felt 16 was wide enough, wasn't worried about filters, and wanted a lens that would give 20-28 with virtually zero distortion. I am very happy with the lens, it is a hell of a value for the price.

Pretty sure Fotodiox makes a filter holder for this lens, also pretty sure it was 2 or 3 hundred bucks. If I ever have lots of spare time to devote to landscapes I might pick one up, but that's a long way away.

I almost think that I regret a little bit here. What do they do if I have two optics that have focal lengths that conflict? no. My 24-70 and 17-40 has two 77mm filters that are very good and smooth. 17-40 is weather sealed that I think is important. I still think I'll keep my 17-40, it does a good job. Even though I use it less than before, it is not less worthy of having the equipment. I have, after all, two 6D so both lenses can be used at the same time

Excuse me, everyone. Thanks for the help.

Loved the IQ of the Tokina, but the flaring was ghastly and was a huge issue. It led to me selling it off a couple years ago. Any light source created rainbow rings and ghosts, even Christmas lights!

Charlie wrote in post #17680897
I use the rok 14 and have a filter from behind the lens, works very well.

Mine doesn't have a filter slot on the rear of the lens. How do you mount it?

Take a look at the 15mm f4 Venus Loawa lens. It has been getting pretty good reviews and has the added advantage of being a macro lens with shift capabilities.

GeoKras1989 wrote in post #17681454
Mine doesn't have a filter slot on the rear of the lens. How do you mount it?

I cheat, I use the ND throttle, which only works with the A7x camera. It's an EF to E adapter with built in variable ND filter, which is not susceptible to usual variable ND problems. Another option is to tape a gel to the rear element...

the tokina does flare pretty bad, but I love mine (bought a roki 14 first, didn't like it, traded it for the tokina). I also picked up the fotodiox wonderpana filter adapter, which I love/hate. Hate setting it up, but love having the ability to use filters. The tokina has it's limitations but I really like mine