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Aug 26, 2015 11:49 |  #1

I am trying to figure out what I did to this image, I am a long time Photoshop user, but just now started dabbling in Lightroom and so far I love it. But I believe I am overdoing something, is it the sharpening that has given this photo the grainy hazy look?

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Aug 26, 2015 11:56 |  #2

1) Its possible. The bokeh should be smoother. It actually messes with eyes. Some lenses at certain apertures might give a "messy" out of focus area.
2) If it is over sharpened. Try just sharpening focal points, like eyes and such.
3) If there was slight camera shake, can also be the problem


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Aug 26, 2015 11:59 as a reply to  @ nazmo's post |  #3

1. F4 doesn't create the best bokeh
2. I will try this
3. Shouldn't 1/400 at 120mm eliminate most camera shake?


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Aug 26, 2015 12:59 |  #4

i think its just the way the ocean was moving.


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Aug 26, 2015 13:07 |  #5

To me it looks very contrasty.


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Aug 26, 2015 13:09 |  #6

Between the contrast, the saturation, and the sharpening you've slightly overcooked it. I think just easing back a smidge on 2 of the 3 would get you there.




  
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Aug 26, 2015 13:47 |  #7

There's a lot of noise in the image, look at the sky, which shouldn't be there really from an ISO 400 shot, so I'd assume too much sharpening somewhere.


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Aug 26, 2015 13:52 |  #8

Yes. I would hold off on sharpening until your done with Lightroom and do all that stuff in PS where you have full control over it.


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Aug 26, 2015 14:58 |  #9

The contrast is high, but it doesn't look like any clipping, so I would say that your biggest problem here is under-exposure.


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Aug 26, 2015 15:15 |  #10

When you sharpened it did you increase the masking. If not, click on the masking slider while holding down the "Alt" key (Windows.) Then move the slider to the right until there is little white in the background type places. That will allow the image to still be sharpened but remove much of the sharpening artifacts that could be causing the image to just not look right.


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Aug 26, 2015 15:22 |  #11

Nogo wrote in post #17683942 (external link)
When you sharpened it did you increase the masking. If not, click on the masking slider while holding down the "Alt" key (Windows.) Then move the slider to the right until there is little white in the background type places. That will allow the image to still be sharpened but remove much of the sharpening artifacts that could be causing the image to just not look right.


I will give this a shot, thanks for the reply


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Aug 27, 2015 21:27 |  #12

It seems the woman is OOF and that is distracting to me.


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Aug 27, 2015 22:17 |  #13

where is the clarity slider?


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Aug 27, 2015 22:24 |  #14

Yes I think the saturation and sharpening are both too high


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Aug 27, 2015 22:31 as a reply to  @ Higgs Boson's post |  #15

Clarity slider is in Adobe Camera Raw (ACR), a PS plug-in

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