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canon t4i or Sony A6000 (video)

 
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Aug 27, 2015 17:47 |  #1

Going on vacation , bringing the 5d3 and 24-70Lii of course as my main photo camera and i want to bring one more as a video camera

i've been wanting to get into video, and wanted to make a short video of my vacation
my other two cameras are the a6000 and the T4i , and i just got a 14mm 2,8 rokinon,,, and i might bring the steadycam stabilizer

Im sure either one will give me more than what i need for what i'm doing here,,
Again i'm totally new to video , this would be my first "project",,, i'm thinking the A6000 because its lighter,,but i was also thinking to pick up a Mic ,, as im not crazy about the sound but the a6000 has no mic input ..the T4i does..

Aside from the mic issue , any reason? one would be better than the other,, or are they pretty much equally low end video cameras?

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Aug 31, 2015 20:44 |  #2

they're both aps-c, but the sony has more mp. and doesn't have the capability to shoot at 1080p @ 60fps? verses the canons 30fps




  
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Sep 15, 2015 16:18 |  #3

i would use a6000 because t4i has terribly compressed video, unless you use ml. but with ml, you won't be able to record fhd.
update firmware on a6000 so you can use xavc-s (high bitrate) video format (with a 64gb+ sd card)
you should be recording audio externally with either camera because built in mic preamp in the t4i sucks.
get an ef to e mount lens adapter if possible. can get them for 60 on ebay. the af sucks but you won't be using af for video anyway.

a6000 with firmware update isn't that low end. it's better than the 5D in terms of video iq if you use xavc-s, otherwise you might get some minor motion artifacts due to lower bitrate.
why not use the 5d though? especially with ml + fast cf card. you won't be shooting photos and videos at the same time!


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Sep 15, 2015 16:45 |  #4

Heya,

It really depends on the outcome that you want.

I do video with a T4i and I find it fine. But I'm not looking to produce high res video with it. Mostly clips that I can then compress into DIVX/XVID/MP4 to save space and just have memories to look at later.

For amateur video, the camera is just the camera, what really takes it up a notch to really enjoy later, is the audio quality big time and how shaky it is. Lens stabilization helps a little bit with the observed shakiness. A gimbal is really the inexpensive way to get quick stabilization. Otherwise, most stabilization other than gimbal work (those cost thousands for the super good ones) is to shoot at higher resolution and use software to crop the final feed down and align it so it looks smooth and stabilized (this is the cheapest but requires the software learning curve). Having a good microphone (powered) so you can record hiss-free, wind-roar free, full range dynamic sound is a huge difference in video. When I watch a video or see a clip and hear that ear piercing mono sound that is all treble, hiss and some 90's talk-boy audio quality, I click it off and don't want to hear it, it's horrible, and we don't buy hundreds and thousands of dollars worth of camera/video equipment to have THAT as your memory keepsake!

If you use the ultrawide, you can have it set to a fixed focus so you never worry about losing focus taking the work off the lens/camera. You want everything in depth of field anyways because what's the point of your vacation existing as blurry bokeh behind stuff that you can't even tell what it is anymore, right? That 14 rok would be a great vacation movie lens, hyperfocal distance focused, and stopped down. Just hit record, and put a good microphone on there (be it a powered shotgun mic, or an omni, but with big dead cat wind stoppers, etc). I can't stress enough how important good audio really is compared to just having a video to look at later.

By the way, for audio recording, just a quick tip to get you started, you use a powered microphone and you increase it's decibel level, +10 is common, +20 is even better. The reason is, if it records at a high perceived volume, you can then drop it in post by that much, and get a cleaner sound by eliminating hiss/wind, while preserving more voice. Makes a big difference. Check out some youtube clips on how to use a shotgun mic and how that works.

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Sep 16, 2015 18:31 |  #5

Thanks for the input fellas...

I ended up leaving behind the A6000,, because i decided to sell it..

i ended up using a combination of the 5d3 and t4i.. originally i thought i would bring the flashpoint stabalizer i recently i got,, but i didnt bring it for several reasons.. i didnt know if it would be an isssue at airport? (looking back now at that experience i dont think it would have) but also i'm not very good at balancing the cameras yet , especially the heavier 5d3 can take a frustratingly long time and so i wanted to have one setup on it so i wouldnt have to go thru the whole process every time..

but anyway i left it home , and just did it all handheld..it was a carribean cruise.. blazing sun over 100F everyday the weight of my gear was gettting to me i will admit that :rolleyes:..but i tried to do it as smooth as possible ,, many mistakes were made,, it was definelty a learning experience

yes Malv.. definetely will start working on improving audio,,not at all happy with sound i got


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