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Is YN-622-tx the solution for 7D MK2

 
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Sep 04, 2015 23:20 |  #1

I have a pair of YN-622C (External flash transceivers) that I used to use with 7D classic and 5D3 along with either 580EX or 470EX speedlites.
When used on 7D MK2, the YN-622C have communication issues resulting in the improper flash exposure (almost 100% power).
On browsing the internet, found that there is new YN-622C-tx transmitter that should resolve this issue.
I have seen mixed reports of it being working with 7D MK2.

Please share your experience with YN-622C-tx on 7D MK2 with YN-622C on external flash.
Does it work as expected?


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Sep 05, 2015 11:42 |  #2

So you're saying you can't adjust flash output from the trigger?

If so, then the TX would allow for this. At least I can adjust my flash from the remote on the camera when I use the 622 TX with a 622 C on my 6D.

I would think it would work the same for you on the 7D.


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I am not convinced there is a difference in the way the 622c behaves on the 7D2. Some settings and descriptions would help. The 622 system doesn't add anything to the camera/flash functionality. It just utilizes what the equipment is already capable of. User error, perhaps?


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Sep 05, 2015 14:38 |  #4

I just checked mine (622c), and it works on my 7D mk2 just like it does on my 7d and 6d. It just acts like a flash so there shouldn't be any problem. Ettl works as expected and manual does also. My flashes are 580ex II and 480 ex ii.

I get the full on camera external flash menu when the 622c is powered up.

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Sep 05, 2015 14:44 |  #5

The last time I tried my 622C on my 7D2, E-TTL was significantly overexposing at close distances, and underexposing further away; it seemed to be OK at middle distances (15-40 feet). I had the latest firmware (Mar. 2015) at the time, and also current on the 7D2. I never noticed a problem with the 7D or 5D3.

I have the latest C-TX (1.08) and it works fine in M mode, but I haven't tried it in E-TTL with the 7D2 yet. The nice thing about the C-TX is that you don't have to fumble with the camera menu if you don't want to; everything is accessible from the trigger's visual menu.


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Sep 05, 2015 16:52 as a reply to  @ mainbyte's post |  #6

Yes. Some have reported that the 622C alone works. But looks like there is some difference in the firmware that causes it not to works on 7D MK2.
I actually have used it without any issue on 7D and 5D3.
But when I used it on 7D MK2, everything was overexposing. I could get a bit of control after switching to manual flash mode, but even then it was putting out too much light.
That is where I googled and found the issue other have reported for 622C and also mention of 622C-tx being the solution.


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Sep 05, 2015 16:53 as a reply to  @ GregDunn's post |  #7

Could you please share your experience with 622C-TX in E-TTL once you try it?


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Sep 05, 2015 17:40 |  #8

The 622C had several problems with the 7D II when that camera was released. They were largely fixed with 622s manufactured from December 2014. No USB - no way to upgrade the firmware in earlier units.

The 622C-TX with the latest firmware (v1.08) fixes all known 7D problems.

622s with a date (in the battery compartment) of 12/2014 or later work with the 7D II, but a problem with one uncommon set of settings remains.

The just-released YN622 II should be fine, and it has a USB port for user updating as well as the latest pcb hardware and compatibility with YN560-TX.


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Sep 05, 2015 20:12 |  #9

I may have to upgrade yet again. :( I don't have another shoot til Tuesday, but I'll try to do a quick E-TTL comparison then.


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Sep 05, 2015 23:08 as a reply to  @ CliveyBoy's post |  #10

Thanks.
That explains a lot. The date code on my 622C is 4/2013.
So I need a pair of 622C II or only one that goes on the body is good enough (with the older 622C on the flash).
Also if I go for 622c-Tx will that work with old 622C in the same fashion or will need 622C II?
Appreciate your feedback.


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Sep 06, 2015 03:03 |  #11

Ah! I missed the flashes that you are using. The Canon 580EX is ok for E-TTL, but does not handle Manual power level settings through its hot-foot. (What is 470EX?)

The YN622C is unable to bypass that restriction. The YN622C-TX can, using C.Fn 05. It uses the E-TTL command set to imitate Manual levels.

My YN622C II parcel has arrived in this country, and its feature set will be checked soon. I think that it is unlikely to add that facility, as there needs to be some sort of feedback to make the setting (like the lcd display on the C-TX unit.

The original YN622C with an E-TTL flash handles this side-step. I would try a YN622C-TX (v1.08) on-camera with C.Fn 05 = On, and a YN622C under the flash.

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Sep 06, 2015 08:59 as a reply to  @ CliveyBoy's post |  #12

Sorry I meant 430EX
I have been following TOYUG since early 2013. Thanks for that. It's really helpful document.
In summary I am trying to find a solution (of over exposure problem) to my YN-622C for use with 7DMKII and either of 580Ex or 430EX.
Trying to figure out what is optimum way that will also retain the classic YN-622C also in the working setup.


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Sep 06, 2015 15:38 as a reply to  @ rndman's post |  #13

If you want to use Manual output levels, you must use on-camera the YN622C-TX with those flashes. If you want to use only E-TTL, you can use a recent 622C, or better, the 622C II. You can use your existing 622C as remote.


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Sep 06, 2015 19:36 |  #14

CliveyBoy wrote in post #17697214 (external link)
If you want to use Manual output levels, you must use on-camera the YN622C-TX with those flashes. If you want to use only E-TTL, you can use a recent 622C, or better, the 622C II. You can use your existing 622C as remote.

Ah. Okay. I was thinking the other way. i.e. latest 622C as remote.
Thanks for clarifying.


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Sep 07, 2015 03:21 |  #15

The Manual with my pair of YN622C II that arrived today makes it clear that the Mk II units, like the original ones, cannot pass Manual levels to a remote with a 430/550/580 flash on it.


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