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Sep 15, 2015 16:45 |  #16

MalVeauX wrote in post #17708929 (external link)
Eh... dunno about that.

I think the 6D is simply a more focused full frame with that focus being the sensor, and less on the bells & whistles, and a lot of folk appreciate that. It just doesn't have the 1D series features like the 5D3 does. I wouldn't call it entry level. It's far form entry level. There is frankly no entry level in full frame. There never was anything but full frame. APS-C is a new concept to the 35mm format world. The 6D for a while was easily the best full frame sensor Canon had outside of the 1Ds/x series. And that's frankly what full frame is about. You can get 1D series features like AF, crosspoints, and all that stuff that has zero to do with the full frame sensor, on any APS-C, APS-H or full frame sensor from Canon now. So it really is just about the sensor when it comes to full frame, and not the features even, anymore. Canon's best full frame sensor that is available is currently in the 1DX, and it's improved performance in quality & ISO performance comes from it's larger pixels and lower resolution, as the 6D has slightly smaller pixels and slightly higher resolution, but is only within a few hairs of that sensor's overall quality. And the 6D sensor is better than the 5D's sensor by a few hairs, at that.

Just another perspective :).

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I feel like u just said what I did but in greater detail. lol


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Sep 15, 2015 18:25 |  #17

BlakeC wrote in post #17708924 (external link)
I think ppl forget that the 6D is more of an "entry level" FF. It lacks features for a reason. It also sells a ton for a reason. Adding all the extras ppl complain about it missing would just make it a completely different camera at a higher price point.

the 6D2 will compete squarely against the nikon D750, and the D750 currently has a much better AF system than the current 6D. The discrepancy between 5D and 6D is too large, not so with the 7Dii compared to 70D.


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Sep 15, 2015 21:31 |  #18

I disagree. I believe the 6D2 will compete against the D610 and whatever Nikon supersedes it with while the 5D4 will compete against the D750 and its successor while the 5DS and R will compete against the D810 and its successor.


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Sep 17, 2015 14:01 |  #19

smythie wrote in post #17709276 (external link)
I disagree. I believe the 6D2 will compete against the D610 and whatever Nikon supersedes it with while the 5D4 will compete against the D750 and its successor while the 5DS and R will compete against the D810 and its successor.

I think the 600 series by nikon is coming to an end, too much bad reputation.

the 6D2, if true, will have articulating screen. That puts it in D750 category, however D750 will probably have massively better AF. D750 is smaller bodied, so wont compete with 5D4, it really doesnt even compete with the current 5D3.

The way I see it, canon currently has 2 pro type non gripped bodies, 5D3/5Ds and 1 amateur body, 6D. Nikon has 1 pro type non gripped body, D810, and 2 amateur bodies, 750/610.


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Sep 29, 2015 11:58 |  #20

Please just give me MORE dynamic range and a few more auto-focus points :)


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Sep 29, 2015 19:26 |  #21

My 6D has been good to me but I'd like to see a 6D2 with 1/250 sync, 1/8000 shutter, more cross type AF points and a better distribution of those points in the frame. A translucent LCD OVF and +2 or 3 fps would be nice as well.

Other unlikely items for midrange Canon bodies in general:
Option to link spot meter to active AF point
Focal length added to LV and image info
Subject distance, DOF and if doable hyperfocal calculation added to LV
Zebras and focus peaking
Intervalometer

Basically native versions of a few ML features.

I'm indifferent to articulating touch screens. Omitting it to keep the price down seems reasonable. I use the GPS frequently, WIFI rarely. I don't find the single SD card slot a problem but I'm not shooting weddings.

If it's true Canon's OS is based on VxWorks, which runs on everything from service provider routers to Mars rovers, I'm more than happy to have it over Android. Last thing I want is a camera that has a disposition of a phone (e.g., half baked and rushed to market).

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Sep 29, 2015 20:01 |  #22

The center focus point is great, the other focus points leave a lot to be desired in my experience. Heck, I would be happy with a firmware update to make the outer focus points more sensitive, oh and a sync speed of 1/250...other than that..


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Sep 30, 2015 14:17 |  #23

aezoss wrote in post #17726936 (external link)
If it's true Canon's OS is based on VxWorks, which runs on everything from service provider routers to Mars rovers, I'm more than happy to have it over Android. Last thing I want is a camera that has a disposition of a phone (e.g., half baked and rushed to market).

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I call BS on this move from VxWorks to Android. Same reasons stated above. Plus VxW is more of a realtime OS used for critical things. You know, when you want things to run right when you need them.

Whole list seems like someone's wet dream, or typical first run rumor.




  
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Sep 30, 2015 14:27 as a reply to  @ vapore0n's post |  #24

Interesting... Canon migrated away from VxWorks some time ago.

https://en.wikipedia.o​rg/wiki/DRYOS (external link)
https://en.wikipedia.o​rg/wiki/DIGIC#Custom_f​irmware (external link)
http://www.canon.com …/explanation/cp​_tech.html (external link)

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Oct 10, 2015 11:20 |  #25

I want more cross-type AF points, even just 5 would be nice.
In addition, a small bump in MP, DR, ISO, fps plus the touchscreen and dual pixel af tech would definitely get me to pre-order. And put my slightly used 6D for sale.

1/250 sync and 1/8000 would be nice but not mandatory for me to buy.

Would love to see spot metering on the AF points too....


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Oct 19, 2015 13:42 |  #26

My neck still hurts from last night trying to shoot Andromeda which was directly overhead from my location. A swivel screen would be great on a 6D2. In fact lets go outside the box and give it touch screen controls like in a smart phone to control aperture, ISO, shutter, and everything else a button would do on earlier bodies. And let's give that a red light night time mode so it doesn't kill your night vision.

Then I would like it to have the AF system of a 7D or 70D so I wont feel like I'm going back in time coming from my 7D.


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Oct 19, 2015 15:19 as a reply to  @ FEChariot's post |  #27

Perhaps a 6D2a to compete with the D810A? The latest issue of SkyNews ran a review of the D810A, impressive body. It would be nice to see Canon go head to head with it. Not sure how large the target audience is but it's a fair bet folks with a 60Da or possibly a modified 6D might consider a 6D2a or equivalent.

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Oct 19, 2015 15:25 |  #28

Heya,

The more I think about it, the more I'd like to see the 6D series become the niche low light full frame, like the A7S, etc.

No AA filter (or option to turn on/off).
Drop resolution to 13~15MP for larger pixels to improve ISO performance.
Scale ISO to compete at least a little bit with the A7S, etc.
Increase -EV for AF in center point (go beyond -3 EV).
Increase dynamic range a bit more (which should happen with the larger pixels).

Canon's 5D4 should compete with the similar full feature Nikon.

Canon's 6D series at least to me should branch away from the 5D series more and focus more on being the best low light full frame capable sensor for 4k video and ultra ISO (again, like the A7S).

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Oct 19, 2015 23:25 |  #29

There was a rumor a while ago that the 6D2 would go upmarket which I personally hope it is false becasue upmarket quality means up market price.

I'm really happy with my 6D and there isn't really much I would change. If anything I'd just like to see maybe:

- 25-30MP
- All Cross Type points, same amount as we currently have is fine.
- Better Dynamic range (This will be great but I will have to ensure I don't go back to my attitude of 'I'll just fix it in post)
Improved ISO performance even though it's already amazing

I think these are reasonable upgrades that shouldn't drive the price up too much. From what I've seen from Canon compared to Nikon, they seem to like to update less often but make huge jumps were as Nikon update much more regularly but with smaller changes.

I doubt it would happen but if Canon really wanted to shake the boat (or more like shake it to the point of destruction), they could turn the 6D line into a FF Mirrorless line.

Either way I'm going to start saving for a 6D2 since next year we may get an announcement for it once this new sensor is done.


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Oct 20, 2015 08:08 |  #30

MalVeauX wrote in post #17752145 (external link)
Drop resolution to 13~15MP for larger pixels to improve ISO performance.

No.


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