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Oct 21, 2015 20:02 |  #31

MalVeauX wrote in post #17752145 (external link)
Heya,

The more I think about it, the more I'd like to see the 6D series become the niche low light full frame, like the A7S, etc.

No AA filter (or option to turn on/off).
Drop resolution to 13~15MP for larger pixels to improve ISO performance.
Scale ISO to compete at least a little bit with the A7S, etc.
Increase -EV for AF in center point (go beyond -3 EV).
Increase dynamic range a bit more (which should happen with the larger pixels).

Canon's 5D4 should compete with the similar full feature Nikon.

Canon's 6D series at least to me should branch away from the 5D series more and focus more on being the best low light full frame capable sensor for 4k video and ultra ISO (again, like the A7S).

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Interesting ideas. A thread just popped up in a another area here talking about how photos from the 5Dc just have a great and unique look to them that not even the newer Canon cameras have. Its because of the larger pixels. I still love the way the shots I took from my 5Dc look as well and I can easily pick them out from shots Ive done with other cameras just from the thumbnails. I would be thrilled if it were 18-20mp but larger pixels and the images looked like a newer, better version of the 5Dc. Let the 5Dx (IV) play the megapixel game. I just got done shooting with a 5Ds I rented for a week, comparing it with my 6D. There is pretty much zero difference even at 100% and straight off the camera, much less once its been resized. Ive realized more megapixels is meaningless for what I do, I would value larger pixels a lot more.


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Oct 21, 2015 20:12 |  #32

Yeah I'm cool with it being a low light camera as well as I love shooting at night.


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Oct 22, 2015 02:16 |  #33

dexter75 wrote in post #17755178 (external link)
Interesting ideas. A thread just popped up in a another area here talking about how photos from the 5Dc just have a great and unique look to them that not even the newer Canon cameras have. Its because of the larger pixels. I still love the way the shots I took from my 5Dc look as well and I can easily pick them out from shots Ive done with other cameras just from the thumbnails. I would be thrilled if it were 18-20mp but larger pixels and the images looked like a newer, better version of the 5Dc. Let the 5Dx (IV) play the megapixel game. I just got done shooting with a 5Ds I rented for a week, comparing it with my 6D. There is pretty much zero difference even at 100% and straight off the camera, much less once its been resized. Ive realized more megapixels is meaningless for what I do, I would value larger pixels a lot more.

It's more than just "bigger sensiles". I would be very surprised if the colour filters on the sensor are still exactly the same on the newer cameras as the older bodies. In addition, if you are viewing the images in converters other than DPP, I think it is very likely that those converters are rendering the images from the different bodies inconsistenly.


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Oct 28, 2015 13:19 |  #34

If Canon wants to make a ton of money, the next 6D would be the 6M. Make a mirrorless full frame with the 19 point all cross type focus with dual pixel AF from the 70d, and an EF mount.

Put in nice EVF to rival the one on the XT-1 and your in business.




  
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Oct 28, 2015 15:02 |  #35

I really hope that the 6D2 has more focus points otherwise I'll be looking at going with the D750, I've shot with a 40D and only have two lens so the switch wont be bad on my pocket. I'm not in a rush, I'll be ordering around March (thx to Uncle Sam) so I have time for any real concrete info from Canon.


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Oct 28, 2015 15:15 |  #36

Qlayer2 wrote in post #17763406 (external link)
If Canon wants to make a ton of money, the next 6D would be the 6M. Make a mirrorless full frame with the 19 point all cross type focus with dual pixel AF from the 70d, and an EF mount.

Put in nice EVF to rival the one on the XT-1 and your in business.


No. DSLR is still king, not mirrorless.


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Oct 28, 2015 15:51 |  #37

I'm a DSLR man, but, I don't see how that statement can be supported, right tools for the job, and mirrorless offers some tools that DSLR's just don't have.


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Oct 28, 2015 17:15 |  #38

Really the only thing minutely wrong with 6D right now is the AF.

70D AF + 5.5 fps + some improvements in ISO/DR + slightly smaller = winner




  
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Oct 28, 2015 18:23 |  #39

dexter75 wrote in post #17763555 (external link)
No. DSLR is still king, not mirrorless.

You better tell Sony and Fuji- they didn't get the memo and are posting profits this year.

Canon profits are down 21%.

http://petapixel.com …eras-cut-into-dslr-sales/ (external link)

DSLR may be king for you. Until you buy a couple million new cameras a year, your opinion doesn't count for much in the global market.




  
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Oct 28, 2015 18:29 |  #40

Qlayer2 wrote in post #17763737 (external link)
You better tell Sony and Fuji- they didn't get the memo and are posting profits this year.

Canon profits are down 21%.

http://petapixel.com …eras-cut-into-dslr-sales/ (external link)

DSLR may be king for you. Until you buy a couple million new cameras a year, your opinion doesn't count for much in the global market.

Already being discussed here and its hardly a big deal

https://photography-on-the.net …showthread.php?​p=17763723


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Oct 28, 2015 18:49 |  #41

Your entitled to your opinion. I'm just looking around and seeing where the action is. Three years ago, if you posted on this forum you were ditching your Canon bodies and buying a Fuji or Sony mirrorless, and you were a paid professional, you would have been a laughing stock. Now you are one of the many who post about it every day.

Mirrorless is here to stay, and improving every year. The DSLR is a mature product, and changes happen more slowly.

To put it in perspective- the 5d iii has been on the market since March 2012. Full frame Sony mirrorless started October 2013, and they have released 6 bodies in that timeframe.




  
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Oct 28, 2015 22:53 |  #42

Qlayer2 wrote in post #17763770 (external link)
Your entitled to your opinion. I'm just looking around and seeing where the action is. Three years ago, if you posted on this forum you were ditching your Canon bodies and buying a Fuji or Sony mirrorless, and you were a paid professional, you would have been a laughing stock. Now you are one of the many who post about it every day.

Mirrorless is here to stay, and improving every year. The DSLR is a mature product, and changes happen more slowly.

To put it in perspective- the 5d iii has been on the market since March 2012. Full frame Sony mirrorless started October 2013, and they have released 6 bodies in that timeframe.

Mirrorless has been around much longer than Sony, they are just the newest player. Leica has been doing it (and much better than Sony ever has) since 2004. Olympus and Panasonic have been doing mirrorless (again, much better than Sony ever has) since 2008. The reason Sony has 6 cameras within two years is because the first gen A7x cameras were awful and needed updated bodies quickly before Sony lost any and all credibility. Canon can wait 4 years between releases of their top cameras because each version they release is excellent.


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Oct 28, 2015 23:29 as a reply to  @ dexter75's post |  #43

Well said.


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Oct 29, 2015 06:17 |  #44

Qlayer2 wrote in post #17763406 (external link)
If Canon wants to make a ton of money, the next 6D would be the 6M. Make a mirrorless full frame with the 19 point all cross type focus with dual pixel AF from the 70d, and an EF mount.

Put in nice EVF to rival the one on the XT-1 and your in business.

Why mirrorless? What would the advantage be?

Because the only thing I can see as an advantage is it's a little smaller then a DSLR. But unless the size of the 24-70 shrinks along with it, I don't see it as a benefit. The size of the 6D doesn't bother me at all.

It seems like a DSLR beats the crap out of mirrorless in pretty much every category but mirrorless is the latest fad that the hippies are embracing since it's different - kinda like the man bun....


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Oct 29, 2015 06:31 |  #45

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the latest fad that the hippies are embracing since it's different - kinda like the man bun....

they are also ruining the beard for all of us! Makes me want to throw my flannels away and shave my beard just so I am not grouped with them!


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