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Mar 21, 2006 11:38 as a reply to  @ post 1313772 |  #76

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I got a kick out of that too! Ahh, nothing like the smell of fresh heavy Russian grease... The smell was strongest with my Industar 61 L/Z :)

The joke goes that the oil they use is squeezed from rotten cabbages.

My Jupiter 9 was a disappointment to me, actually. I bought mine new for about $50, so I didn't expect much (plus, I'm a long-time owner of this stuff and have appropriate expectations). The problem is not with the lens, but with the ergonomics. The focus ring is WAY too tight, and the preset aperture ring is even tighter, with detents so hard that it takes a good grip on the ring to turn it. The problem with that good a grip is that my thumb invariably leaks over onto the focus ring, and thus I upset the focus trying to stop down the preset aperture.

It won't be the first time I've had to take apart an ex-Soviet lens and relube it, but this one isn't really good enough to be worth the trouble, it seems to me.

The Jena Sonnar 135, on the other hand...

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Mar 21, 2006 11:48 |  #77

I picked up a Super Multi Coated Takumar 50mm f/1.4 lens on ebay a couple weeks ago, but I haven't played with it yet because I need an adaptor. I've been looking at the ones for sale on ebay. Can someone tell me what it means when they say "retains infinity focus"? Do I need that? Anything else I should look for?


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Mar 21, 2006 11:51 |  #78

It's got to be a subjective thing because I just don't mind it at all.

Just for the craic here's a quick one of the 30D with one of my favourite lenses mounted sweetly and taken wide open with my crazy Russian: a bonkers three way :lol: :lol: but me and my sheep into the mix and it becomes a potentially rather kinky five way! :cool:

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Mar 21, 2006 12:27 as a reply to  @ nater's post |  #79

nater wrote:
I picked up a Super Multi Coated Takumar 50mm f/1.4 lens on ebay a couple weeks ago, but I haven't played with it yet because I need an adaptor. I've been looking at the ones for sale on ebay. Can someone tell me what it means when they say "retains infinity focus"? Do I need that? Anything else I should look for?

"Retains infinity focus" means that it parks the lens at the right distance from the sensor so that infinity on the lens means infinity. I don't know of an M42 adaptor on the market that does not retain infinity focus, so this is just a statement for people who didn't know such a thing was possible.

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Mar 21, 2006 12:52 as a reply to  @ post 1312647 |  #80

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What would be the advantages of buying a new Jupiter-9?

Just curious ...
are you intrigued by the better Russian (or maybe Ukrainian?) workmanship nowadays compared to some years ago?
Or is it that the Russian guarantee ensures you can sleep well at night? :wink:

Like Condyk said, the eBay gamble might be worth it. I paid 35 EUR shipped for my used copy ... it's a nice lens, but I really doubt that a new one could be much better. And if I don't like it, I can sell it off again for that price...

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Mainly because I know ebay can often be a risky place to buy such equipment, I'm still going to hold out and see if a 'mint looking' one appears on ebay before I consider buying new. I'm in no rush afterall :). The used lenses I've bought so far have been superb.

BTW - I took the first shots with my M42 lenses today - http://oomz.net/mf/vie​wtopic.php?id=1171 (external link)

Just waiting for my CZ Pancolar 50mm f/1.8 and extension tubes now.


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Mar 21, 2006 13:10 as a reply to  @ rdenney's post |  #81

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"Retains infinity focus" means that it parks the lens at the right distance from the sensor so that infinity on the lens means infinity. I don't know of an M42 adaptor on the market that does not retain infinity focus, so this is just a statement for people who didn't know such a thing was possible.

Rick "who bought his M42 adaptor from DVDTechnik" Denney

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Mar 22, 2006 07:37 as a reply to  @ post 1250497 |  #82

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Seriously though, have fun with the new purchases...
I've seen loads of old manual focus lenses on ebay and they do seem to hold a fairly good value if in good condition. Some of those optics are probably better than some new stuff, particularly the 'consumer' grade zooms.
I'm sure all the 'L' brigade around here will dissagree though... :-)

EDIT: oops... I see you have an L in your line-up !!

Here's a little comparo for you.
The 100-300L vs the takumar preset 200 f3.5


100-300L @ 200mm f8

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Tak 200 f8
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Mar 22, 2006 07:48 as a reply to  @ Nikolas's post |  #83

This is very interesting. It is a 100% crop, correct?
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Mar 22, 2006 07:52 as a reply to  @ tiziano's post |  #84

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This is very interesting. It is a 100% crop, correct?
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Yes sorry they are 100% crops.

This one taken with the carl zeiss flektogon 35mmf2.8 at 800iso but I don't remember the aperture.

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Mar 22, 2006 07:59 as a reply to  @ Nikolas's post |  #85

Oh WOW! Beautiful portrait!


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Mar 22, 2006 08:01 as a reply to  @ Nikolas's post |  #86

Some more.
Pentacon 135 f2.8
sorry again i don't remember the aperture setting but usually it's around f8 in bright sunlight.

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czj flektogon 35mm taken under full moonlight.

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one more the star points are from the six blade iris.
This has definitely got to be the best short angle manual focus lens and value for money it can't be beaten.
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and the crop
notice the fishermen at the end of the pier.
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Mar 22, 2006 08:10 as a reply to  @ Nikolas's post |  #87

Sorry can't help myself now :)
Valentino rossi at the motogp last year in Melbourne.
Pentacon 300 f4 iso 200 wide open
Notice there is some small amounts of CA on the tail pipe.


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50 mm takumar f1.4 at f2.8
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takumar 200 f3.5 with cheap and nasty 3x teleconverter so effectively 600mm f11
Still rendered a very acceptable result considering the viewfinder was so dim and camera shake was really evident.
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Mar 22, 2006 08:37 as a reply to  @ Nikolas's post |  #88

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Valentino rossi at the motogp last year in Melbourne.
Pentacon 300 f4 iso 200 wide open

How do you focus? You first focus on the spot where the bike is going to pass, and then shot when it arrives?
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Mar 22, 2006 09:18 as a reply to  @ tiziano's post |  #89

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How do you focus? You first focus on the spot where the bike is going to pass, and then shot when it arrives?
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Yes
I prefocus on that spot usually by taking a few shotsbeforehand with other bikes and then pan with the bike i want to shoot and snap at that spot.
It was hit and miss at times but out of 300 shots I had 180 keepers.
not bad for a manual focus telephoto which weighs quite a fair amount.
I've been shooting with manual focus lenses all my life so for me it is second nature.


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Mar 22, 2006 10:57 |  #90

Nikolas,

impressive shots!
How does your Tair-3 300/4.5 compare to the Pentacon 300/4.5?

I have the TAIR-3 but don't find it very easy to quickly focus it...

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