Looking in the forum, it seems there are consistent issues with the focusing. I don't have the Mark II, but have the 7D (gen 1). Is this a user issue, or are there bugs to be worked out by Canon?
marklori43 Senior Member ![]() 294 posts Likes: 1 Joined Apr 2008 Location: Winfield, IL More info | Sep 18, 2015 07:24 | #1 Looking in the forum, it seems there are consistent issues with the focusing. I don't have the Mark II, but have the 7D (gen 1). Is this a user issue, or are there bugs to be worked out by Canon? Nature Sniper
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joedlh Cream of the Crop ![]() 5,385 posts Gallery: 45 photos Likes: 543 Joined Dec 2007 Location: Long Island, NY, N. America, Sol III, Orion Spur, Milky Way, Local Group, Virgo Cluster, Laniakea. More info Post edited over 5 years ago by joedlh. (2 edits in all) | Sep 18, 2015 08:03 | #2 While there are often random clunkers in a production run, the general consensus is that it's users picking the wrong autofocus mode, case, or focus point for the shot that they're trying to get. I shot the start of a marathon race last weekend. The focus nailed the lead runner every step of the way for a burst of 10 shots. And that's with -- dare I admit it -- pixel-peeping. Joe
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TeamSpeed 01010100 01010011 ![]() More info | Sep 18, 2015 08:35 | #3 If you look at the large thread here, you will immediately tell that the issues, whether real or user related, have largely quieted down. The last several pages of that thread are about things completely unrelated to AF issues. The 7D "had AF issues" too, if you remember, then those died down as well. We had polls going about AF issues on the first gen. Past Equipment | My Personal Gallery
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mwsilver Goldmember More info Post edited over 5 years ago by mwsilver. (2 edits in all) | Sep 18, 2015 16:13 | #4 marklori43 wrote in post #17711984 ![]() Looking in the forum, it seems there are consistent issues with the focusing. I don't have the Mark II, but have the 7D (gen 1). Is this a user issue, or are there bugs to be worked out by Canon? While there may be the odd focus issue today due to an actual camera problem, primarily most real issues have been rectified by firmware updates. the current firmware is 1.0.5 and each of the updates has responded to various focus issues for very specific lenses. Secondarily the 7 AF modes of the 7D II have been somewhat daunting to those coming from cameras with simpler AF systems like my previous go to body, the 60D. Coming from 7D you will likely have fewer issues with its AF than others do. Mark
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CyberDyneSystems Admin (type T-2000) ![]() More info Post edited over 5 years ago by CyberDyneSystems. (5 edits in all) | Sep 18, 2015 16:31 | #5 The four threads I see are not about 7D2 AF issues at all. 1DX III Pro Bundle for sale
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marklori43 THREAD STARTER Senior Member ![]() 294 posts Likes: 1 Joined Apr 2008 Location: Winfield, IL More info | Sep 18, 2015 19:21 | #6 Ok. I stand corrected. I still love Canon. Nature Sniper
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TeleFragger Goldmember ![]() 3,186 posts Likes: 218 Joined Aug 2010 Location: Williamstown, NJ More info | Oct 08, 2015 10:25 | #7 joedlh wrote in post #17712018 ![]() While there are often random clunkers in a production run, the general consensus is that it's users picking the wrong autofocus mode, case, or focus point for the shot that they're trying to get. I shot the start of a marathon race last weekend. The focus nailed the lead runner every step of the way for a burst of 10 shots. And that's with -- dare I admit it -- pixel-peeping.
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GregDunn Goldmember ![]() 1,289 posts Likes: 129 Joined Mar 2013 Location: Indiana More info | Oct 08, 2015 11:28 | #8 That's the thing - As a potential 7D2 owner I followed every thread most carefully and tried to figure out how many people were actually seeing camera defects, and how many were just taking time to get the camera configured to their liking. I think I finally came up with about a half dozen posters who genuinely had a problem with the camera itself; the remainder were able to configure the AF cases, MFA the lens, reset the camera, upgrade the firmware, etc. and get their issues resolved. Of that small number, some were able to get the problem resolved with an exchange or repair, and others have gone through 3-4 units without success. Looking at published sales figures from dealers over the last year, it seems likely that many tens of thousands of 7D2 cameras are out there being used daily; a handful of defective cameras is a pretty low AQL out of that sample. Canon 1Dx | 5D3 | 7D2 | 6D | 70-200L f/2.8IS | 70-200L f/4 | 24-70L f/2.8 | 24-105L f/4IS | 100-400L f/4.5-5.6IS | 17-55 f/2.8IS | 50 f/1.8 | 28-105 f/3.5-4.5 | 4x Godox AD360
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This would make me believe that canon quietly fixed somethong , somewhere along the way. _______________
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Oct 08, 2015 16:57 | #10 My camera shipped from the retailer on Oct 30. By Christmas there were reports of focus issues. After reading quite a few of these posts I started to experiment with MFA. By March I had not been able to get any consistent results no matter what I did. I subsequently did a 'factory reset' to start from the beginning again. I contacted Canon by email and sent in the requested pictures. When taking the test shots I also took a set of the same shots with my T3i. These shots are a little better than those taken with the 7D2. >>> Pictures? What pictures? <<<<
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mwsilver Goldmember More info | Oct 08, 2015 17:30 | #11 RodS57 wrote in post #17738039 ![]() My camera shipped from the retailer on Oct 30. By Christmas there were reports of focus issues. After reading quite a few of these posts I started to experiment with MFA. By March I had not been able to get any consistent results no matter what I did. I subsequently did a 'factory reset' to start from the beginning again. I contacted Canon by email and sent in the requested pictures. When taking the test shots I also took a set of the same shots with my T3i. These shots are a little better than those taken with the 7D2. On one of my focus test excursions I took a bunch of shots of a stationary object with the camera well supported. All shots were soft with the exception of one shot in the middle of a short burst. That shot was perfect and it was that shot which convinced me to contact canon. Canon's response was there was nothing wrong with my camera. If they had suggested I send it in for a checkup and then told me I was an idiot that would have been fine. Problem identified. With almost a year under my belt with this camera I still don't know if there is something wrong with the camera or not and based on Pondrader's recent experience it is unlikely I will send it into canon. The focus errors are such that I can't nail down the source. Things aren't completely out of whack so my uncertainty continues. Disclaimers: This is the most complicated camera I have ever tried to use I'm long on hopes of getting 'that' shot but short on experience Most of the time the tamron 150-600 is mounted on the camera Rod Can we assume you've applied all the firmware updates to 1.05? Mark
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Oct 08, 2015 18:26 | #12 mwsilver wrote in post #17738064 ![]() Can we assume you've applied all the firmware updates to 1.05? I haven't applied 1.0.5. The previous one yes. They seem to mostly apply to issues with specific canon lenses along with some other stuff. I'll give the new one a go one of these days. >>> Pictures? What pictures? <<<<
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TeamSpeed 01010100 01010011 ![]() More info | Oct 08, 2015 20:03 | #13 If the camera is under warranty still, I would simply request a repair order and send it in. At least make Canon prove there is no issue, or perhaps now they can identify an issue when they hook up the diagnostics. It will only cost you some time, nothing more, and could give you some peace of mind. Past Equipment | My Personal Gallery
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mwsilver Goldmember More info | Oct 08, 2015 21:43 | #14 RodS57 wrote in post #17738122 ![]() I haven't applied 1.0.5. The previous one yes. They seem to mostly apply to issues with specific canon lenses along with some other stuff. I'll give the new one a go one of these days. I do get some sharp shots even with the tamron. I mostly use the tamron but for a walk around I use the 70-300L. After the email to canon I only used the 70-300L for weeks to try and confirm it was the tamron. The canon lens does work better than the tamron. Maybe it doesn't like the tamron. I am more than willing to admit that it is me. Probably just so I can say I didn't blow two grand. ![]() It was purchased specifically for BIF. I am a complete amateur at this type of shooting. Nothing I can do now but carry on and continue to practice. Ignoring the focus part of it, the other problems mentioned elsewhere (metering issues, main dial I think) and taking into account the number of shots I normally take in a year (about to 5000) I should be good for a few years. I know, much more info than you asked for but I figured I would put it in context. Thanks for asking. Rod Are you sure the lens is not the issue? Mark
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Pondrader "now I'm no rocket scientist but I do get a shot or two" ![]() 16,028 posts Gallery: 2548 photos Best ofs: 5 Likes: 57039 Joined Aug 2012 Location: Minden, Ontario, Canada More info | Oct 09, 2015 06:08 | #15 On the other hand..I loved my 7DII from the very start. other's had difficulty's but mine just felt like it was a extension of me and maybe thats the problem I'm having now. Im not sure what they changed as even they don't seem to know. or at least cant tell me over the phone. After the repair my camera is just average, ......ya know close but not super. I did put firmware 1.05 on when it came out and found no change in the focus or image quality using the 100-400LII or the 70-300L. I remember what struck me using this camera was the detail at greater distances, it was a weapon for sure. if I could go back in time I would never have sent it in to Canon for repair, ...I would have lived with the goofy wheel and kept my sniper style 7DII ,.... Jeff ........, 7D, 70-300L, 100-400LII
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