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Sep 27, 2015 20:48 |  #1

Been having some issues with my 1D4 and I cant tell if its camera or not. To me it seems like it wont track and af is slower then normal. Im using a Sigma 120-300 OS Non Sport I just got and If I shoot 6 photo burst of the subject barley moving like a small animal only 2 are good. I also noticed a few weeks ago with a 300mm 2.8 IS Mark II that it wasnt hitting the focus point all the time and I found that really odd for such a high end lens. I never had these issues on my 5D Mark III and 70-200 lens when I used that combo. I also know that the Sigma is not the fastest but after talking with a few other people it should not be acting this way which is why I think it may be my body? Does any one have or had a problem like this?


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Sep 27, 2015 23:42 |  #2

I had a similar issue yesterday with my Sigma 120-300 OS on the same MkIV. I was shooting African skimmers and almost every shot was OOF. I realised that for some reason AF servo settings were on "main focus point" priority rather than "continuous AF track". Changing it back improved things, although I do find the sigma is a bit sluggish and misses quite a lot compared to the 100-400II. Cracking images when it nails them though...

Might be worth a check?




  
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Sep 28, 2015 00:03 |  #3

I have been messing with a ton of settings to get it right and i would agree, the images when it nails are amazing but I need a better hit rate for sure, so I wonder if my 1D is the problem bc even with the 300mm 2.8 Canon it missed a few here and there.


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Sep 28, 2015 09:07 |  #4

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I realized that for some reason AF servo settings were on "main focus point" priority rather than "continuous AF track". Changing it back improved things.......

How did you switch from one setting to the other? Is it in the main menu somewhere? If so, what do you select to get to the place where you can choose from these two options?


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Sep 28, 2015 09:22 |  #5

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How did you switch from one setting to the other? Is it in the main menu somewhere? If so, what do you select to get to the place where you can choose from these two options?

I had been messing with settings - it is in the "autofocus" menu. I read somewhere that it had little effect on AF tracking - not in this case. It seemed to completely throw shots off.




  
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Sep 29, 2015 12:10 |  #6

I got to put the lens on a T3i yesterday to just see, it seem to track a bit better and was better at AF Accuracy on a Rebel so im pretty sure my 1D is messed up, my 1D should beat the t3i all the way around right?


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Sep 29, 2015 15:57 |  #7

Tom Reichner wrote in post #17724722 (external link)
How did you switch from one setting to the other? Is it in the main menu somewhere? If so, what do you select to get to the place where you can choose from these two options?

This is a custom function in all cameras I've seen having it at all. Not 100% sure about the 1D Mark IV, though. Look in the user's manual.


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Sep 29, 2015 17:24 |  #8

Tom Reichner wrote in post #17724722 (external link)
How did you switch from one setting to the other? Is it in the main menu somewhere? If so, what do you select to get to the place where you can choose from these two options?

CF III-3 is on the 1D3 probably 1D4. As far as I know this feature is only on 1 Series 7D and I think probably on new 5D3


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Sep 29, 2015 19:45 |  #9

Hi, gentlemen. Copied this from the Canon PDF guide. When you are shooting individual subjects you want to be set to option 1: ‘Continuous AF track priority.

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With Custom Function C.Fn III-4 ‘AF tracking method,’ the default setting is option 0: ‘Main focus point priority.’ However, when actually shooting with AI Servo AF, there are many situations where option 1: ‘Continuous AF track priority’ is appropriate. So, what type of situation is appropriate for the Main focus point priority setting? With the Main focus point priority option selected, when a subject other than the primary subject moves into the area of the manually selected AF point (usually in the center of the expanded area so it is called the main focus point), you can specify whether the focus should switch to the secondary subject. With characteristics like this, by continuing to take advantage of area expansion (athletes in sports), ‘Main focus point priority’ is effective when you want to continuously switch between targeted subjects. At track events, when you want to switch the focus to an athlete that comes into the foreground, or when you want to continuously switch focus between cyclists in a bicycle road race, this setting can be highly effective.

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Use C.Fn III-8 ‘AF Expansion with selected point’ as described on the previous page, and when shooting extremely fast moving subjects, another important Custom Function is C.Fn III 1-4 ‘AI Servo AF tracking method’ (hereafter tracking method). Basically, when you want to track one subject using area expansion, it is best to set the tracking method to option 1: ‘Continuous AF track priority’ (hereafter continuous priority). When shooting with area expansion and using this setting, if another subject comes into the foreground, it will be treated as an obstruction by the manually selected AF point (the center of the area expansion). Results of focusing are used to detect the position of the subject, and AF points switch from one to the next within the expanded AF points to capture the subject. With shooting situations like this, when using area expansion to shoot moving subjects, the continuous priority setting is effective in almost every situation. When there is no specific target, as we will introduce on the next page, it is probably best to remember, if area expansion is used, use C.Fn III-4 option 1: ‘Continuous AF track priority.’


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Sep 29, 2015 23:18 |  #10

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Would not hitting the target be a Camera or Lens problem? Like if the subject is there and once camera can lock on it and the other can no could that be the camera or is that the lens on a different set up.


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Sep 30, 2015 05:10 |  #11

I don't understand the question. Did you forget som words?

The AF tracking method setting is on the 7D, but that's the last camera that had it. It's been replaced by other settings on the 1DX, 5D Mark III etc.


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Oct 10, 2017 13:29 |  #12

There were many that had issues with AI Servo on fairly static subjects where the camera lost focus. There are plenty of examples online over the years of this. I had to send mine in due to issues in lower light, and Canon performed "electronic adjustments" and some other standard terms they seemed to throw on the invoices back then.

The lenses used also can exasperate the issue too, 3rd party lenses like Sigma can cause additional grief.


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Oct 11, 2017 18:23 |  #13

Thread was started over 2 years ago. OP has made many equipment changes since then.


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Oct 13, 2017 07:53 |  #14

True, and the person that woke the thread up deleted their post to which I had replied... :(


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Oct 13, 2017 18:03 |  #15

Wow just saw this haha, old old old. Ya I am now shooting with a Nikon for my work.


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