PhilV Goldmember 1,977 posts Likes: 75 Joined Jan 2005 Location: S Yorks UK More info | Oct 08, 2015 15:27 | #31 Your post simply shows that a lack of understanding and care can't be overcome by buying the celebrity endorsed flash thingumybob. Gear List
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agrandexpression Senior Member 448 posts Likes: 137 Joined Apr 2015 More info | Oct 08, 2015 16:03 | #32 Phil V wrote in post #17737941  Your post simply shows that a lack of understanding and care can't be overcome by buying the celebrity endorsed flash thingumybob. I think the OP made it clear they didn't understand why the photo didn't turn out the way they anticipated.
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PhilV Goldmember 1,977 posts Likes: 75 Joined Jan 2005 Location: S Yorks UK More info | Oct 08, 2015 16:15 | #33 agrandexpression wrote in post #17737987 I think the OP made it clear they didn't understand why the photo didn't turn out the way they anticipated. It seems OP is looking for some help with how to use the "crap white thing" properly, or for other recommendations. Belittling OP isn't probably going to help...but I could be wrong, perhaps being publicly ridiculed is what helped you become a better photographer? So you edited the bit out where I gave (very good) advice just to have a pop! But it's me that's doing the public ridicule? Gear List
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LeftHandedBrisket Combating camera shame since 1977...  More info Post edited over 8 years ago by Left Handed Brisket. (2 edits in all) | Oct 08, 2015 16:19 | #34 Phil V wrote in post #17737998 So you edited the bit out where I gave (very good) advice just to have a pop! But it's me that's doing the public ridicule? Well done! That's a twisted view of the world you have.  I think what he was saying is that is seems pretty clear that you didn't read the thread before commenting. PSA: The above post may contain sarcasm, reply at your own risk | Not in gear database: Auto Sears 50mm 2.0 / 3x CL-360, Nikon SB-28, SunPak auto 322 D, Minolta 20
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digitalparadise Awaiting the title ferry...  More info | Oct 08, 2015 16:22 | #35 I said early there would be more talk about the gadget Image Editing OK
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LeftHandedBrisket Combating camera shame since 1977... More info | Oct 08, 2015 16:27 | #36 i'm surprised it took so long for Wilt to whip out the feta container. PSA: The above post may contain sarcasm, reply at your own risk | Not in gear database: Auto Sears 50mm 2.0 / 3x CL-360, Nikon SB-28, SunPak auto 322 D, Minolta 20
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digitalparadise Awaiting the title ferry... More info | Oct 08, 2015 17:21 | #37 Yeah I don't see it. Maybe it is on the production line and he doesn't want to say anything. Giving GF a run for his money Image Editing OK
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agrandexpression Senior Member 448 posts Likes: 137 Joined Apr 2015 More info | Oct 08, 2015 18:28 | #38 Phil V wrote in post #17737998 So you edited the bit out where I gave (very good) advice just to have a pop! But it's me that's doing the public ridicule? Well done! That's a twisted view of the world you have. If you had left it at suggesting the speedlighters handbook and the strobist blog...I definitely would not have had anything to say. They are excellent resources.
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Wilt Reader's Digest Condensed version of War and Peace [POTN Vol 1]  More info Post edited over 8 years ago by Wilt. (2 edits in all) | Oct 08, 2015 19:38 | #39 Left Handed Brisket wrote in post #17738016 i'm surprised it took so long for Wilt to whip out the feta container. 
You did not mention which camera body you use. It used to be true (about 10 years ago, in the days of the 5D, and 20D/30D that Canon ETTL flash chonically underexposed and just about everyone found it necessary to use FEC (about +1EV of it) to get a proper exposure out of the camera and not need LR to brighten things! Then when the 40D camera long, miracle of miracles you no longer had to automatically dial in FEC just to get a good exposure. And while Canon ETTL seems to handle ceiling bounce just fine, it does seem to do some weird things with some light modifiers, and we cannot seem to explain why or when this happens, even after extensive testing. So, dial in FEC, just like we did 'in the old days'.  You need to give me OK to edit your image and repost! Keep POTN alive and well with member support https://photography-on-the.net/forum/donate.php
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LeftHandedBrisket Combating camera shame since 1977... More info | Oct 08, 2015 19:42 | #40 digital paradise wrote in post #17738057 Yeah I don't see it. oops, it was in the other thread from the same OP. PSA: The above post may contain sarcasm, reply at your own risk | Not in gear database: Auto Sears 50mm 2.0 / 3x CL-360, Nikon SB-28, SunPak auto 322 D, Minolta 20
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It was 5Dmk3
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PhilV Goldmember 1,977 posts Likes: 75 Joined Jan 2005 Location: S Yorks UK More info | Oct 09, 2015 00:55 | #42 agrandexpression wrote in post #17738124 If you had left it at suggesting the speedlighters handbook and the strobist blog...I definitely would not have had anything to say. They are excellent resources. I personally don't feel that giving a good suggestion AFTER taking a shot at someone makes it ok. Maybe I'm too new at this, but I don't understand why the photography profession seems to be filled with people who have so much disdain for newcomers who want to learn and improve. A commonly heard response is "if you are even asking this question, you have no business even holding a camera". Perhaps after 20 years of photography, I'll look at newbies in the same fashion. I hope not, because I certainly won't know it all by then. I think you've misunderstood my post, I put hundreds of hours a year into helping newbies, sometimes though, the message can be blunt. Gear List
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agrandexpression Senior Member 448 posts Likes: 137 Joined Apr 2015 More info | Oct 09, 2015 08:59 | #43 Phil V wrote in post #17738444 I think you've misunderstood my post, I put hundreds of hours a year into helping newbies, sometimes though, the message can be blunt. The blunt message is 'stop wasting your money on gizmo's and learn how light works'. It might sound like tough love, but it's completely correct. There's plenty of explanation prior to my response for why the OP wasn't getting the expected result, if there hadn't been, I'd have added it. I'm up for tough love...absolutely necessary many times. And I totally agree with you...learning about light is vital to improving one's photography.
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inkista Senior Member  700 posts Likes: 95 Joined Oct 2007 Location: San Diego, CA, USA More info | Oct 10, 2015 10:00 | #44 digital paradise wrote in post #17736362 ...This book is very good as well. ... http://www.amazon.com …5&creativeASIN=1584282584 Should point out that there's going to be a second edition ... One way in which this book has been radically changed from the first edition, is that it is now more of a work-book. There are several examples where you have to have your camera (and flash) in your hands, to step through the instruction. All the better to make sense of flash photography, and become confident in the use of flash photography. I'm a woman. I shoot with a Fuji X100T, Panasonic GX-7, Canon 5DmkII, and 50D. flickr stream
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digitalparadise Awaiting the title ferry... More info | Oct 10, 2015 14:13 | #45 |
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