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Rogue Flashbender or Gary Fong collapsible light sphere? Take a guess which is which

 
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Oct 07, 2015 19:10 |  #1

Canon 5Dmk3, Sigma 24-105 Art, ISO 800, 1/200, f/5.6 Canon 600ex in ETTL with FEC at +2/3 Snapshots Both are identical processed which was barely anything as you can tell
One was with the Gary Fong and One was with the large Rogue FlashBender
Guess which is which and regardless which do you like better. I had to scramble one of the reflections on the window or it would have given it away
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Oct 07, 2015 19:16 |  #2

1. rogue
2. lightsphere


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Oct 07, 2015 19:21 |  #3

urbanfreestyle wrote in post #17736972 (external link)
1. rogue
2. lightsphere

And if this is correct why did you choose the way you did and which do you prefer?




  
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Oct 07, 2015 19:26 |  #4

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1. rogue
2. lightsphere


I would agree with this also. I feel #1 is a little brighter because the Flashbender is throwing more light forward, while the Fong will waste/spread out more around the room as in the second. The back wall is a little brighter in the first also. This is how my Lumiquest pocket bounce performs also.


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Oct 07, 2015 19:27 |  #5

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And if this is correct why did you choose the way you did and which do you prefer?

I went with it this way round as i think the rogue gives a slightly stronger lighting as seen in the teeth whereas the fong will dissipate light across the whole room and much more even reflected lighting.
Personally its tough as i prefer the skintones of the 2nd one but the whiteness of the top in number 1.


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Oct 07, 2015 19:31 |  #6
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Is a trick question. Regardless, I choose and am using a large size flashbender. In physic, it has a larger surface for the light to diffuse and putting it out forward.


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Oct 07, 2015 19:40 as a reply to  @ TooManyShots's post |  #7

It is not a trick question. I was having a hard time deciding which I liked better. I also liked the skin tones better in the second one. I did not adjust the temp or the tint or the white balance that was shot in AWB. The whites in the first one were a little better in my opinion as well. BOTH were shot with FEC +2/3 on Canon 600 EX with ETTL




  
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With the skin tone, you can edit it in post. Really, is hard to see the difference here between these two shots, except that the shadows by the wall is slightly softer with the first shot. With the flashbender, you can add a screen to create a mini softbox. I don't use it because it would eliminate any ceiling bounce and you would only get directional lighting. This would be great if you want to mute the background.


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Oct 07, 2015 20:05 |  #9

The skin tones are different as the tupperware is going to get you more tint from the walls.




  
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Oct 07, 2015 20:06 as a reply to  @ TooManyShots's post |  #10

The first poster was correct the large flashbender was the first photo and the second one was Gary Fong collapsible sphere.
I think both are very similar with the flash bender ever so slightly softer light. I do not understand though why most praise the flashbender and bash the light sphere. It seems they are very very close. I will say I am brand new at these modifiers and I wanted to see first hand. I would feel pretty good using either one. The light sphere is seems pretty simple and the large flashbender slightly more obtrusive. I can see how the flashbender would be more versatile with the ability to adjust the direction of the light




  
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Oct 07, 2015 20:09 |  #11

gqllc007 wrote in post #17737033 (external link)
The first poster was correct the large flashbender was the first photo and the second one was Gary Fong collapsible sphere.
I think both are very similar with the flash bender ever so slightly softer light. I do not understand though why most praise the flashbender and bash the light sphere. It seems they are very very close. I will say I am brand new at these modifiers and I wanted to see first hand. I would feel pretty good using either one. The light sphere is seems pretty simple and the large flashbender slightly more obtrusive. I can see how the flashbender would be more versatile with the ability to adjust the direction of the light

Because if you were anywjere other than a room with light colored walls the examples wouldnt be so close. The fong only works when it has adjacent surfaces to bounce off of. Try a 3rd shot with a bounce from the wall behind you amd uou will see how little the fong does for you.




  
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Oct 07, 2015 20:09 as a reply to  @ gqllc007's post |  #12

My issue is not with the fong, In fact i quite like the idea (not bought one yet)
but i have issues with people using things like the fong / diffuser outdoors in open air with no walls arround etc and the flash pointing directly at the subject. FFS JUST TURN DOWN THE POWER! lol


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Oct 07, 2015 20:19 |  #13

gonzogolf wrote in post #17737038 (external link)
Because if you were anywjere other than a room with light colored walls the examples wouldnt be so close. The fong only works when it has adjacent surfaces to bounce off of. Try a 3rd shot with a bounce from the wall behind you amd uou will see how little the fong does for you.

Interesting as I did not know that and in Fong's videos he had light colored walls all around him




  
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Oct 07, 2015 20:22 |  #14

urbanfreestyle wrote in post #17737039 (external link)
My issue is not with the fong, In fact i quite like the idea (not bought one yet)
but i have issues with people using things like the fong / diffuser outdoors in open air with no walls arround etc and the flash pointing directly at the subject. FFS JUST TURN DOWN THE POWER! lol

I think Fong has instructions to do this, I would have to look at his card that comes with it but I am pretty sure




  
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Oct 07, 2015 20:26 |  #15

gqllc007 wrote in post #17737054 (external link)
Interesting as I did not know that and in Fong's videos he had light colored walls all around him

Fong has a number of misleading claims in his promotional materials, but its been repeatedly proven here how ineffective they are if you dont have adjacent bounce surfaces. Step outside and test the two again. The rogue wont be great as its still a small modifier but it will beat the fong. Its physics, size equals softness with all other things being equal and the fong doesnt make the light source larger absent the bounce. And if you have good bounce surfaces you dont need the fong.




  
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