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Oct 12, 2015 07:08 |  #1

Is a TS lens of any use these days with PP able to easily tilt and shift? i am thinking about which extreme wide angle to wish for, for internal and external architecture shooting ... 14mm or 17mm TS-E.


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Oct 12, 2015 07:27 |  #2

I agree that you can correct perspective in PP (the "shift" feature) but remember that you are "creating" new pixels that didn't exist in the original image. As for tilt, I agree that one can create the "miniature" effect in PP but you can't duplicate the "deep focus depth" in PP. The T/S lens still has a purpose.


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Oct 12, 2015 07:30 |  #3

TS-E17 is an amazing lens. You just have to decide if what you want to do is worth the $'s. I've seen some very nice deals in the for sale area of PTON.


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Oct 12, 2015 07:39 |  #4

Tilt and shift can not be accomplished in post to the same degree it can with a TS-E. You can't change the focal plane in post, you can't shift outside the frame in post.




  
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Oct 12, 2015 12:43 |  #5

Skaperen wrote in post #17742178 (external link)
Is a TS lens of any use these days with PP able to easily tilt and shift?

How can PP possibly give you more depth of field than what you shot with? I mean, if something is out of focus and blurry, then no amount of processing is going to give you a sharp, accurate rendition of all of the fine detail in the area that was out of focus.

These days, T/S lenses aren't really about controlling perspective distortion; rather, they are all about controlling the plane of focus.


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Tom Reichner wrote in post #17742562 (external link)
How can PP possibly give you more depth of field than what you shot with? I mean, if something is out of focus and blurry, then no amount of processing is going to give you a sharp, accurate rendition of all of the fine detail in the area that was out of focus.

These days, T/S lenses aren't really about controlling perspective distortion; rather, they are all about controlling the plane of focus.

Except in architectural work, mate: I hardly ever tilt, but I'm shifting ~90% of the time—heh, even when doing portraiture, for I want my verticals vertical:

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Oct 12, 2015 13:05 |  #7

Bending, stretching and otherwise abusing pixels will only get you so far. There are times when only a TS lens will do.




  
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Oct 12, 2015 15:08 |  #8

Tom Reichner wrote in post #17742562 (external link)
How can PP possibly give you more depth of field than what you shot with? I mean, if something is out of focus and blurry, then no amount of processing is going to give you a sharp, accurate rendition of all of the fine detail in the area that was out of focus.

These days, T/S lenses aren't really about controlling perspective distortion; rather, they are all about controlling the plane of focus.

It has some limitations, but for some cases focus stacking can be used as an alternative to T/S lenses for the purposes of larger DoF.


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Oct 12, 2015 21:11 |  #9

If you think you can really mimic shift with PP then I honestly don't think you have used shift to its full potential or you haven't used shift much.

The only way of mimicking shift is to shoot with a much wider lens and crop. That is effectively what you are doing with shift - only you are 'cropping' by choosing where to place your sensor.

PP perspective correction is not at all the same thing, although granted in some applications it will look similar and give acceptable results. For instance try taking a picture straight on to a mirror without getting yourself in the shot with a non TS lens.

Pointing a lens in a different direction (with a view to then correcting in PP) will change the composition and the relationship of objects to each other in the image. It may be subtle and may not be important in many cases, but it is still different. It is particularly true for near-far relationships, which is why I like using shift for landscapes even though the effect is often subtle.


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