First reaction to my new 5DS R - really judging it against my 5D3

So far some mixed views ......

Please note much of this may well be innacurate ... Me just getting it wrong. Got the Camera and walked into a big shoot ( not ideal or smart, eg no time to set up the Lens alignment, MFA it etc., or even read the manual , all pretty stupid! )

Sadly, I dont think its going to be my "totally fallen in love with camera for life", neither will it be an icon like I think the 5D3 will be.
So far the 5D3 is bombproof! Apart from not having the resolution I craved; it is flawless ( well my copy is for me )

Instant reaction its not as solid as the 5D3, as with everything they dumbed down the build quality! But its OK and for £3,200 it shoud be superb.

In the studio with lights its awesome! Fabulous detail and atm I would keep it just on those feelings

Outside yikes either I got it all wrong or it may have a problem. Too tired to fully explain, but it can take 5,pics in a row exposing properly then wtf it over exposes like hell!
I will work out how to upload pictures as I REALLY want help identifying what is wrong.

I set it on F8, ss 1/160, lens at 70mm and auto ISO ......one minutr it was ISO 160, then 200 fair enough it was on spot metering then it wouls jump to 1,250 !!

I suspect it was me - need to check a few things out first.

But its not bomb proof like the 5D3!

Its really late so will continue tomorrow.

When Canon puts an S in the body name, it's for studio. The 1Ds was a beast on the street. The 1Dx was a crossover of the lower res/smaller sensor/higher fps and the slower, higher res, full frame body lines.

As much as I'd like more MP, I need shoot-from-the hip forgiveness and better high ISO performance. I don't shoot dslr in the studio, or even on a tripod.

I just got another 5D3 and will wait for another model with my name on it.

Thanks for your post

I wouldn't use spot metering if you are using auto ISO. I would use evaluative and set exposure compensation up at 1/3 or 2/3, or center weighted perhaps.

mcluckie wrote in post #17744527
When Canon puts an S in the body name, it's for studio. The 1Ds was a beast on the street. The 1Dx was a crossover of the lower res/smaller sensor/higher fps and the slower, higher res, full frame body lines.

As much as I'd like more MP, I need shoot-from-the hip forgiveness and better high ISO performance. I don't shoot dslr in the studio, or even on a tripod.

I just got another 5D3 and will wait for another model with my name on it.

Thanks for your post

For your stuff, I would keep to the 5D3 every day of he week

TeamSpeed wrote in post #17744572
I wouldn't use spot metering if you are using auto ISO. I would use evaluative and set exposure compensation up at 1/3 or 2/3, or center weighted perhaps.

Totally agree, not sure why I chose that, never have before, but I was still unpleasantly surprised at the results

Yeah, 5D3 is more versatile and has better ISO then the MP king Well from your previous threads, it seemed you wanted to upgrade to get more "pop". Hope once you get used to it, it will give you that. At least from a "sharpness" standpoint, reviews seem to indicate the 5DS is killer with that.

mcluckie wrote in post #17744527
When Canon puts an S in the body name, it's for studio. The 1Ds was a beast on the street. The 1Dx was a crossover of the lower res/smaller sensor/higher fps and the slower, higher res, full frame body lines.

As much as I'd like more MP, I need shoot-from-the hip forgiveness and better high ISO performance. I don't shoot dslr in the studio, or even on a tripod.

I just got another 5D3 and will wait for another model with my name on it.

Thanks for your post

so you're saying none of the 1Ds line should be in used in the field by landscape photographers? not sure anyone would really agree with that...

No, I'm saying 1Ds bodies like tripods. I hiked China with one once, and it was a beast. (And I hiked mountains with a Hasselblad and 3 lenses before.) I got nothing much better than with a 5D series. I know a sports guy that uses 1Ds with a monopod, but in reality, he'd be better off with a 1D for those events. Enough MP, faster fps, crop sensor for making tele lenses longer—a pro weather-resistant build with pro battery capacity. More pixels require better stability or every flaw in your technique gets magnified.

I shoot it in center weight 10% outside or in bright backlit partial metering 90% of the time and have never been in evaluative or spot as of yet but I am just getting use to it as well
I suspect spot metering was your culprit

Not as solid as the 5D3?

I just don't know where that is coming from


Spot metering is 100% your issue - the metering on the 5DSR is far better than on the 5D3

I have compared the 5DSR and 5D3 at 12,800 ISO and the 5DSR will produce a better end picture with NR.

If the 5DSR/5DS is better, that is quite good indeed. Here is what I can do with 25600 on the 5D3 from a thread a long time ago.
https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1411154

I suspect the same steps that I use either on the 5D3 or the 7D2 would produce great 5DS results.

mcluckie wrote in post #17744527
When Canon puts an S in the body name, it's for studio.

Not at all !!

What do the "s" and "R" stand for? According to Chuck Westfall (Canon USA):
"As with sibling models sold by Canon in the past such as "1D/1DS", the "S" was added to indicate a high resolution type. It means Super or Superior. As for "R", the low-pass filter effect is cancelled, and as it refers to an even higher resolution model, the initial for Resolution is used...
(source from http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Ca​non-EOS-5Ds.aspx )

And here directly from the Canon website:
The Naming of EOS 5DS and 5DS R
In the past, Canon has responded to a wide range of user needs by offering two models in the EOS-1D series, they are: EOS-1D series, which focuses on a balance between image quality and shooting agility, and the EOS-1Ds, which provides higher pixel count and resolution. Thus, Canon and its supporting users readily recognize a camera name with a suffix “S” will be a model with assured resolving power. Based on this understanding, Canon has named the EOS digital camera with ultra-high 50.6-megapixels as “EOS 5DS” in honor of the EOS-1Ds series. EOS 5DS bears a golden nameplate inherited from the EOS-1Ds series.

Moreover, the EOS 5D S variant model that is designed with the effect of optical low pass filter cancelled is named EOS 5DS R, in which (“R” stands for “resolution”. It features a silver nameplate with a Red ‘R’ on it which symbolizes maximum clarity brought by the ultra-high-pixel resolving power.

So at the end we can easily say that 5DS R mean 5Digital Superior Resolution

I wasn't being literal.

But in usage, that seems to be their best venue. From everything I've read about the 5Ds, and Canons inclusion of extra mirror shock absorbers, your technique and stability need to be spot on or you'll get 50 mp of magnified problems.

+1, sounds like your first encounter with spot metering. Pretty much never spot meter reading a scene is easy enough to exposure comp.

Use the 5d3 to meter > set same on you new toy and compare
If you have significant diff. You have a problem
But i suspect using spot metering with auto iso is a wrong way to go