need some help picking out a strobe

This photo was done using a yongnuo 568 ex2 flash and the 622c trigger system with a 24x24" soft-box

I have been watching lots of youtube review videos on some of the upper end strobes, like the Profoto B1 and was pretty amazed

Here's the Problem, I don't have that kind of money like most of us starting out.

Here is what I need I live in AZ, don't have a studio and I Photograph outdoors 95% of the time


I would like one or two

Something that shoots high speed sync, (the pic below was at 1/600th)

something portable & battery powered or something with battery pack that won't break the bank

something with a good amount of power to over power sunny AZ Sun

Something affordable

compatible with yongnuo 622c trigger and 622x controller

I just may be out of my mind to even think there is an item that exists

please share links if you have them..

Thanks,
Michael

What do you consider affordable?

300-400 each with battery

MichaelLynn wrote in post #17744791
300-400 each with battery

Heya,

Godox AD360 system.

Or, get a single Rovelight 600B.

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I almost got the 360. Great light. But I wanted a bit more power. I wanted enough to really over-power Florida sun at any time of day no matter what. So I got the Rovelight. You can catch it on sale now and then for a really good price. It's powerful enough to over power the sun even as a bounce source. I really enjoy using it with a big 60" umbrella as a bounce surface.

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Is it possible to... (And I really mean "Is it?" I'm not sure...)

Just stack a few stops of ND filters on your lens and knock off some of the biggest challenges? So with some strong NDs, you can stay wide open without having to go HSS. That solves that problem.

That also knocks out the background pretty hard, and at that point, one or two 622 triggered speed lights should handle the rest, right?

Justin Horne wrote in post #17744803
Is it possible to... (And I really mean "Is it?" I'm not sure...)

Just stack a few stops of ND filters on your lens and knock off some of the biggest challenges? So with some strong NDs, you can stay wide open without having to go HSS. That solves that problem.

That also knocks out the background pretty hard, and at that point, one or two 622 triggered speed lights should handle the rest, right?

Not really,

You still need the power output to over-come the ND filters. You simply removed the need for HSS and went with an alternative method of stopping down ambient light. But the power requirement remains. Throw some ND filters on there, and go down to sync speed, and you still cannot over-come the sun with a speedlite, let alone two. You need considerably more power. The power is the issue here. HSS or ND is just a method of stopping down the ambient light while still having enough power to then bring it back up, even when the sun is bright.

Very best,

MichaelLynn wrote in post #17744778
This photo was done using a yongnuo 568 ex2 flash and the 622c trigger system with a 24x24" soft-box

Here's the Problem, I don't have that kind of money like most of us starting out.

Something that shoots high speed sync, (the pic below was at 1/600th)

something portable & battery powered or something with battery pack that won't break the bank

something with a good amount of power to over power sunny AZ Sun

Something affordable

compatible with yongnuo 622c trigger and 622x controller

I have a couple questions for you, as well as a suggestion or two.

My first thought was what do you consider "affordable"? Each person has a different price point in mind when thinking about "affordable".
You also mention you are "starting out". But what does that mean? Do you shoot professionally as your livelihood? Or are you merely a weekend warrior? Or are you an enthusiast who is shooting for fun and personal enjoyment? Again, your answer will make a big difference as to what suggestions you'll get.

Perhaps the simplest solution for you at the moment is to do what you've been doing, but do MORE of it. For example, you can buy accessories that allow you to mount two or more speedlights onto a light stand. Double or triple your lights in this way to give you more potential power than your current one-speedlight setup. And you also get to maintain compatibility with your current triggers.

Rather than assume you need HSS, you can consider using an ND filter — or even a variable ND filter. This technique would give you lots of control without stressing your flashes as much as HSS would do. It will also give you more power than HSS generally will. This method is discussed extensively in a couple of threads, and you'll find good ND filter samples:

1. HSS vs ND filter for outdoor portraits
2. HSS sucks... Use an ND filter instead

MalVeauX wrote in post #17744817
Not really,

You still need the power output to over-come the ND filters. You simply removed the need for HSS and went with an alternative method of stopping down ambient light. But the power requirement remains. Throw some ND filters on there, and go down to sync speed, and you still cannot over-come the sun with a speedlite, let alone two. You need considerably more power. The power is the issue here. HSS or ND is just a method of stopping down the ambient light while still having enough power to then bring it back up, even when the sun is bright.

Very best,

Thanks.

Rovelight 600B purchased on sale from Adorama is a great deal. Even better now with the new remotes coming out at the end of the month.

Godox has just introduced an ETTL capable 360.
That may be the best option.
I use the Cheetah version of the Godox 180/360 and its fine for working with the sun.
The TTL version, if you shoot Canon, will be a nice option.

Godox, Neweer, or Cheetah bare bulb system would do. Look around on ebay. The 360ws model can be had for under $400 and including the external battery. The flash could only be powered with an external battery. It could do HSS just simply by connecting the unit to your yongnuo TTL triggers. They just realized the ETTL version and about $500 including the battery. Not sure if ETTL is needed with off camera flash. I guess it is nice to have.

Another option is getting an used Alien Bee B800 and getting yourself the Vagabond Mini battery...the total price is still under $500. And the Rovalight is nice too but bigger.