First Wedding

Here’s a couple it took as a second shooter at my first wedding shoot.

The cropping on the first one doesn't work for me. Too tight on the left in the mirror and what is the yellow mass on the right? Somebody else's hair perhaps? Maybe a tighter crop might work better?

FarmerTed1971 wrote in post #17746198
The cropping on the first one doesn't work for me. Too tight on the left in the mirror and what is the yellow mass on the right? Somebody else's hair perhaps? Maybe a tighter crop might work better?

See what you mean...i do like this better.
thanks

Yes!

Not bad. While #1 has a really amazing expression it suffers from not being able to see negative space on the other side of the brides neck. It makes her neck look really wide. Obviously you can't always know where people are going to move or have great expressions but try to think about ways to anticipate them.

But good focus and exposure which is the problem of 90% of the time with first weddings. It seems you have a leg up on other people's first weddings

How was your first wedding experience
as a 2nd shooter?

DThriller wrote in post #17756322
Not bad. While #1 has a really amazing expression it suffers from not being able to see negative space on the other side of the brides neck. It makes her neck look really wide. Obviously you can't always know where people are going to move or have great expressions but try to think about ways to anticipate them.

But good focus and exposure which is the problem of 90% of the time with first weddings. It seems you have a leg up on other people's first weddings

How was your first wedding experience
as a 2nd shooter?

thanks...First time was a lot of fun! I think she (the photographer) loved my photos and wants me to work with her again. I was able to offer up about 190 really good shots. Here’s a couple more of my favorites.

Good it's important to have fun

What's the biggest thing you learned

DThriller wrote in post #17756439
Good it's important to have fun

What's the biggest thing you learned

Several things, but I think most of it would be wrapped up in 2 words; Be Prepared! Being Prepared firstly by knowing my equipment and my limitations and strengths. Being emotionally and mentally prepared helped me keep a cool head and not try to rush things. It’s kind of funny but preparation helped keep me patient but move quickly...does that make sense? Preparation gave me the confidence to keep it together even when I wasn’t so together inside!

Yea don't let on when things go bad if you are nervice the couple won't feel comfortable. I just try to make mistakes into a joke.

Oh yea and keep telling them they look good

DThriller wrote in post #17756464
Oh yea and keep telling them they look good

How would you handle the following situation? We were in the local Catholic Church for the actual ceremony. We were allowed to shoot but no flash. It was fairly low light. I had one spot to shot from and could not move around. I was shooting mostly between 150-200mm just to get sort of close with my 70-200. As I stated, I could not move around. How would you shoot this? thanks
-will

First off you make sure in your wedding contract you have a section about "house rules" if in a church you are forbidden from getting shots you need in any way you don't want that on your neck. The bride won't be happy if you say "well the church guy told me I could only shoot from behind a wall so I couldn't get anything of the ceremony" but if it's in your contract that you have to follow the rules of the church at least they can't legally come after you for only getting crappy shots. You kinda have to follow the church's rules anyways bc they basically have the power to stop the secvice to scold you (I've seen videos of this).

If you get the a church and the church guy is being really demanding you may want to talk to the bride and tell her what your limitations will be just so she knows. The church guy will change his mind if the bride gets pissed at him haha kind of a weasel move playing the middle man but it works.

I would talk to the church guy before the ceremony and really push saying I need flash for when people are moving down the aisle at the beginning and end but promise I won't during the ceremony itself. Other then that I 99% use no flash in churches anyways. I shoot with 5dm2s so you should have plenty of iso. Don't be scared to crank it up.

DThriller wrote in post #17756588
First off you make sure in your wedding contract you have a section about "house rules" if in a church you are forbidden from getting shots you need in any way you don't want that on your neck. The bride won't be happy if you say "well the church guy told me I could only shoot from behind a wall so I couldn't get anything of the ceremony" but if it's in your contract that you have to follow the rules of the church at least they can't legally come after you for only getting crappy shots. You kinda have to follow the church's rules anyways bc they basically have the power to stop the secvice to scold you (I've seen videos of this).

If you get the a church and the church guy is being really demanding you may want to talk to the bride and tell her what your limitations will be just so she knows. The church guy will change his mind if the bride gets pissed at him haha kind of a weasel move playing the middle man but it works.

I would talk to the church guy before the ceremony and really push saying I need flash for when people are moving down the aisle at the beginning and end but promise I won't during the ceremony itself. Other then that I 99% use no flash in churches anyways. I shoot with 5dm2s so you should have plenty of iso. Don't be scared to crank it up.

The photographer I shot with had all of that worked out. I cranked up to about 2500 ISO, but should have gone higher. I will definitely do some more testing for the next time!

Were you getting shot without camera shake at 2500? You gotta get the shot and if you need to go to 6400 to get the shot without camera shake you gotta do it.

DThriller wrote in post #17756643
Were you getting shot without camera shake at 2500? You gotta get the shot and if you need to go to 6400 to get the shot without camera shake you gotta do it.

I noticed camera shake in some photos. I just shot a couple of tests of my wife at 12800 in just about the same lighting as the church. After some quick processing, I see that I should have not been shy to increase the ISO...great learning experience. Next time for sure if I find myself in the same situation.