Einstein vs Profoto

Please help me. I've been using Einsteins for 2 years now. Gently used I have 2. I am mainly a pet photographer. I am considering upgrading to the profoto b2 b/c I hear they have Ettl and HSS. I love the einsteins but HSS would be useful at times, as would ETTL

I'm not an expert on understanding the differences. Would you help educate me? Do you have a preference of 1 of these over the other? Which might be better for me. Most of the pet photographers I've spoken to use profoto

I assume the ETTL feature would be needed for shooting non static portraits.
Take a look at this:
https://plus.google.co​m …rumours/posts/d​MZDscUpH4Z
There are a couple of threads on Godox(Cheetah branded).
This is what I'd be looking at, especially because of the cost differnenc compared to the Profoto

If I was switching to Profoto, Id go for the B1's not the B2's. Don't forget to save some money for modifiers and maybe some new lightstands and grip equipment.

I don't think the B2's can handle the full range of Profoto modifiers, which is a deal breaker for some.

The problem is a couple of B1's, modifiers, and lightstands would cost $5-6k

The B2's are also quite expensive for what they are. And yes, it's a new system in terms of light formers: you'll need either B2-specific modifiers and/or adapters to use other Profoto and third-party gear.

Just for product clarification about Profoto...

A Profoto B2 or B1 strobe, CAN use any of the more than 120 existing Profoto light-shaping modifiers/tools that are available; they do not need special modifiers.
http://profoto.com …-profoto-heads-monolights
For example: I can & do use my studio Profoto D1Air-500's 3ft Octabox, Beauty Dish, 1ft x 3ft Strip Softbox, or Zoom Reflectors, etc. with my Profoto B1's for on-location applications.

However, it is just the selected Profoto "OCF" series of light modifiers
http://profoto.com …cts/off-camera-flash/#OCF Light Shaping Tools
that are manufactured with lighter-weight materials than the conventional Profoto modifiers (RFi, HR, RF series) and therefore are designed & recommended ONLY for Profoto B1's & B2's use (since these lights do not generate much heat).

Everyone has to determine which manufacturers' tools suit their specific applications/needs, as there are a lot of great products on the market.
I happen to love the Profoto products for their very fast recycle times, durable quality-construction, color-consistency across power levels, extreme reliability and convenient ease of use features, particularly for dynamic applications: such as HSS for wedding formals particularily in say summer sun when shade isn't available and TTL for the actions/memorable moments of receptions, or events. The B1's are indeed a pleasure to use, particularly for on-location applications (and provide more power/flexibility & cordlessly than the battery-pack cabled B2's). This enables my focus to be on moments/expressions rather than gear.
i.e. "pose/expression trumps exposure triangle/perfection" every time - but B1's noticeably helps me come closer to executing on both levels.
Two B1's (with a set of spare batteries) in a Profoto Double case
http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …o_330211_Double​_Case.html
is my air-travel carry-on "personal item", for occasional destination weddings.

My product selection & photography-business strategy is to: determinedly differentiate yourself & style, playing to one's strengths and to start where you want to end. Just one view.

Hope this clarifies.

Mary
(P.S. No affiliation to Profoto, just a satisfied user of many of their solution-oriented products for numerous years).

Why would you go for the B2 (250ws) instead of the B1(500ws)? That's a big drop down in power coming from two einsteins. I'm assuming price? If that's the case, have you looked into the new Elinchrom HSS system that can be used with the Ranger RX and Quadra systems?

Here's a good (free) video from Joey L., comparing an Einstein to a Profoto B1: Joey L. - what flash kit should I buy?

PhotogNY wrote in post #17758887
If that's the case, have you looked into the new Elinchrom HSS system that can be used with the Ranger RX and Quadra systems?

Joey L. - what flash kit should I buy?

No ETTL

If you want to keep your modifiers..... make sure you can find Profoto adapters for it.
I am still using my Fotodiox EZ Pro umbrella Octaboxes and stripboxes with my D1s and AcuteB system. All I had to do was to buy Fotodiox's Profoto speedring adapters.

Thanks for enlightening me. I stand corrected.

Good info here, thank you everyone. I will do some more research. Indeed chucking the einsteins may not be the way to go.

It might be the way to go, just don't chuck them for something subpar.

Isn't the Phottix Indra TTL capable?

Okay, just looked it up. The Phottix Indra is 500ws and TTL capable, but with an external battery pack and a 1k price tag. Sort of a good compromise between the Einstein and the Prophoto if you ask me.

could one use triggers to use all 3 together: say in a studio I need a 3rd light sometimes and want to use all 3, but outside I need versatility: einstein to over power sun, but the indra at times to have the ttl and HSS? would this be an option for me

abbypanda wrote in post #17759790
could one use triggers to use all 3 together: say in a studio I need a 3rd light sometimes and want to use all 3, but outside I need versatility: einstein to over power sun, but the indra at times to have the ttl and HSS? would this be an option for me

I can't see why not. I use an extra cybersync receiver to trigger a speedlight when I need to. When mixing lights you loose the ability to control the third party lights remotely, and with the Indra you'd loose TTL when mixing it with the Einsteins, but they should still work just fine as manual lights when mixed together.