I read through a few different reports on Sony's recent earnings call, not a single one mentioned camera sales. ZERO mentions. While Canon has been making acquisitions as a way of getting into related market segments, Sony has spent much of the last few years selling off assets to stop the bleeding. They are now in a rebuilding stage, for instance buying Toshiba's sensor fab facilities.
what's your point?
Tom Reichner wrote in post #17766284
That is a very good case in point.
I believe that when Canon goes full bore into the mirrorless game, it will do so offering a similarly "finished product"....or, better yet, a full product lineup.
By that I mean that I think that practice of using adaptors is somewhat ridiculous, and that Sony mirrorless users are pretty much stuck using third party lenses for any specialty work, which requires the use of adaptors between the camera and the lens. I fully believe that at some point within the next 5 or 6 years, Canon will offer a very comparable full frame mirrorless camera that either uses the EF mount, or else has it's own line of lenses - and that that lens lineup will be complete with super telephotos, many fast primes, wide-ranging zooms, tilt/shift, and true 1:1 macro lenses.
It would really surprise me if Sony ever had their own lens lineup that was as fully complete and of such excellent quality as Canon. They have never shown themselves to be optical specialists, and their camera systems have always run short when it comes to offering a wide array of native lenses for their cameras. Higher-end photography / professional photography is really driven by optics more than anything else, and Sony has never shown that they are fully committed to offering across-the-brand, long-term compatibility and specialized optics the way Canon has for decades now.
I think Canon's only mistake was that they even bothered with the EOS-M system. I think they learned form that, and are going to wait until they have a complete mirrorless system that will far surpass any system any other manufacturer offers.
I feel like Canon will continue to diversify their product line-up with EOS-M being a smaller light weight offering that will have a limited selection of lenses. These lenses will be good but not built to the same standard as regular EF. Think of M as "Rebel" for mirroless.
Their also will be a pro mirrorless that will use EF mount. I say this, but I am not fully convinced it will happen, and think it will only happen if they can put it out on equal footing as say a 6D. Right now there are just no real world advantage to mirrorless, other than a exposure WYSIWYG viewfinder, and that is; 1) a non issue to most 2) canceled out by other shortcomings.
I suspect that we are due a Dual Pixel AF DSLR that will really kick ass. This will then trickle down into the next gen M series cameras.
mystik610 wrote in post #17766315At some point mirrorless AF will meet or beat DSLR performance, and lens mounts will for all intents and purposes be universal. At that point Canon's ability to leverage their catalog of lenses will be null. For anyone who isn't shooting sports and wildlife, the a7rII's mount is basically universal already.
a friend, on more than one occasion, asked me why laptop processors were always slower than desktops. It was pretty simple from my point of view (more space, more electrical power, more heat sinking ability) he kept claiming that they should catch up and just keep it that way. That's not the way it works.
I think in large part the argument that mirrorless AF will catch up to DSLR is based on the assumption DSLR focusing is at it's peak with no more room to grow. IMO this is absurd. We simply don't know what all these engineers are working on, only time will tell.
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