Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Photo Sharing & Discussion Critique Corner 
Thread started 28 Oct 2015 (Wednesday) 04:17
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

Wanted to try a new way of lighting

 
NinjaKix
Member
Avatar
137 posts
Gallery: 18 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 81
Joined Mar 2012
     
Oct 28, 2015 04:17 |  #1

I'm primarily an outdoor strobist. Normally, I had always moved the strobes further back from the subject to distribute the light evenly and give it more of a natural light feel. I decided I wanted to try something new, and move the lights in close and sort of replicate studio style lighting in an outdoor environment.

IMAGE: https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5757/22299520590_ef3147b33f_b.jpg
IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/zYwS​yW  (external link) DSC_8707 (external link) by Kyle Harrell (external link), on Flickr

IMAGE: https://farm1.staticflickr.com/599/22432467725_4658a64366_b.jpg
IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/Abhg​7V  (external link) DSC_8745 (external link) by Kyle Harrell (external link), on Flickr

IMAGE: https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5788/22410990156_d88a868b78_b.jpg
IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/A9ob​A1  (external link) DSC_8801 (external link) by Kyle Harrell (external link), on Flickr


Any tips, tricks, and constructive criticism is welcome. Thank you all.

[Nikon D810] [Nikon 24-70 f/2.8] [Nikon 70-200 f/2.8] [Nikon 85 f/1.4] [Einstein E640's]
Like me on Instagram (external link)
See my flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
windpig
Chopped liver
Avatar
15,915 posts
Gallery: 7 photos
Likes: 2259
Joined Dec 2008
Location: Just South of Ballard
     
Oct 28, 2015 05:45 |  #2

It works for me in #1 & #3.


Would you like to buy a vowel?
Go ahead, spin the wheel.
flickr (external link)
I'm accross the canal just south of Ballard, the town Seattle usurped in 1907.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
mamaof2
Goldmember
Avatar
1,361 posts
Gallery: 10 photos
Likes: 95
Joined May 2014
     
Oct 28, 2015 08:16 |  #3

agree on 1&3 ...beautiful!


Jessi
T4i/Nifty fifty/ 18-55/ DCR 250 macro attachment/ 55-250 stm/ Few old film lenses
flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
FarmerTed1971
fondling the 5D4
Avatar
7,352 posts
Gallery: 66 photos
Best ofs: 2
Likes: 5909
Joined Sep 2013
Location: Portland, OR
     
Oct 28, 2015 08:19 |  #4

The results are great. Moving the light closer actually does the opposite of what you would think.


Getting better at this - Fuji X-t5 & X-t3 - 16 1.4 - 35/50/90 f2 - 50-140 - flickr (external link) - www.scottaticephoto.co​m (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
jcolman
Goldmember
2,666 posts
Gallery: 17 photos
Best ofs: 2
Likes: 694
Joined Mar 2008
Location: North Carolina
     
Oct 28, 2015 08:22 |  #5

FarmerTed1971 wrote in post #17763082 (external link)
The results are great. Moving the light closer actually does the opposite of what you would think.

Exactly. By moving your lights closer you soften the light.


www.jimcolmanphotograp​hy.com (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Left ­ Handed ­ Brisket
Combating camera shame since 1977...
Avatar
9,925 posts
Gallery: 15 photos
Likes: 2398
Joined Jun 2011
Location: The Uwharrie Mts, NC
     
Oct 28, 2015 08:41 |  #6

#1 is a bit warm on the processing

not sure why #2 isn't getting any love, i like it just as much as the others.


PSA: The above post may contain sarcasm, reply at your own risk | Not in gear database: Auto Sears 50mm 2.0 / 3x CL-360, Nikon SB-28, SunPak auto 322 D, Minolta 20

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Dermit
Goldmember
1,815 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Likes: 173
Joined Nov 2005
Location: Chandler, Arizona
Post edited over 7 years ago by Dermit.
     
Oct 28, 2015 09:40 |  #7

jcolman wrote in post #17763088 (external link)
Exactly. By moving your lights closer you soften the light.

This. Basic rule which to many seems illogical is this.... the smaller the relative light source the harsher (relative to the subject)... the larger light source the softer. You can make a light source relatively larger by bringing it in closer... This also why using a softbox or umbrella or reflecting off anything larger works to soften the light, it makes the relative light source larger. Larger light sources allow the light to wrap around the subject more which causes the softness.

The sun is a relatively very small light source. Yes it's huge in actual size, but relative to us it a small circle in the sky and very far away. This makes it harsh. When a cloud moves in front of the sun now that cloud is the relative light source and relatively much larger (to the subject) than the sun was which makes the light much softer.

One thing to consider when moving the light source closer to the subject is that this will also alter the 'depth of light' or falloff relative to the subject. If you bring the light source in very close and expose properly the effective light 'depth' becomes shallow much like focus becomes shallow with wide apertures and shorter distance to subjects. You can use this falloff technique to better control the ambient of the background better and controlling 'spill' of your light on areas other than your subject.

...and by the way, love the shots!


5DmkII, 5DmkIII, 5DS R, 15mm, 16-35 f/2.8 II L, 100 Macro f/2.8 L, 70-200 f/2.8 L IS, 85 f/1.8, 580EX II, 580EX, 550EX
http://www.pixelcraftp​hoto.com (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
losangelino
Senior Member
972 posts
Gallery: 76 photos
Best ofs: 4
Likes: 403
Joined Jul 2012
     
Oct 28, 2015 09:47 |  #8

These are great. What modifier did you have on the lights?



Flickr (external link)
IG: @lensesandwheels (external link)cars | @photomagicology (external link) portraits
website: ClothesAndDagger.com (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
EnglishBob
Senior Member
Avatar
555 posts
Gallery: 5 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 119
Joined Dec 2004
Location: Clovis, California.
     
Oct 28, 2015 10:01 |  #9

Look great to me.


Gallery (external link) MyGear (external link) About Me (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Fitness ­ Freak
Senior Member
Avatar
848 posts
Gallery: 13 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 88
Joined Nov 2011
Location: USA
     
Oct 28, 2015 12:42 |  #10

I think they look great!


FYI: "Fitness Freak" is also known as "Amber" outside of POTN.
http://fineartamerica.​com/profiles/1-amber-kresge.html (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
windpig
Chopped liver
Avatar
15,915 posts
Gallery: 7 photos
Likes: 2259
Joined Dec 2008
Location: Just South of Ballard
     
Oct 28, 2015 14:58 |  #11

Left Handed Brisket wrote in post #17763097 (external link)
not sure why #2 isn't getting any love, i like it just as much as the others.

To me the added lighting doesn't match the ambient light, it just looks like artifical light source is up close. The fall off doesn't work.


Would you like to buy a vowel?
Go ahead, spin the wheel.
flickr (external link)
I'm accross the canal just south of Ballard, the town Seattle usurped in 1907.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
NinjaKix
THREAD ­ STARTER
Member
Avatar
137 posts
Gallery: 18 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 81
Joined Mar 2012
Post edited over 7 years ago by NinjaKix. (5 edits in all)
     
Oct 28, 2015 17:28 |  #12

losangelino wrote in post #17763158 (external link)
These are great. What modifier did you have on the lights?

The PCB 47" Octabox gridded.

Thank you all for the compliments.

windpig wrote in post #17763525 (external link)
To me the added lighting doesn't match the ambient light, it just looks like artifical light source is up close. The fall off doesn't work.

Yea I kind of wished I would have moved the light a little bit more towards me to get more of a wrap and smoother falloff on the right side of her body.


[Nikon D810] [Nikon 24-70 f/2.8] [Nikon 70-200 f/2.8] [Nikon 85 f/1.4] [Einstein E640's]
Like me on Instagram (external link)
See my flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
jcolman
Goldmember
2,666 posts
Gallery: 17 photos
Best ofs: 2
Likes: 694
Joined Mar 2008
Location: North Carolina
     
Oct 29, 2015 10:48 |  #13

NinjaKix wrote in post #17763668 (external link)
The PCB 47" Octabox gridded.

Thank you all for the compliments.

Yea I kind of wished I would have moved the light a little bit more towards me to get more of a wrap and smoother falloff on the right side of her body.

I disagree. I think your light placement is fine. Moving the light closer to the camera would give you a "flatter" look. The way you have the light positioned gives the image some nice dimension.


www.jimcolmanphotograp​hy.com (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
DThriller
Goldmember
Avatar
2,057 posts
Gallery: 89 photos
Best ofs: 3
Likes: 3033
Joined Dec 2011
Location: Rhode Island
     
Nov 03, 2015 14:52 |  #14

You should always experiment with your light


http://www.facebook.co​m/DPhillipsStudios (external link)
http://DPhillipsStudio​s.com (external link)
@DPhillipsStudios
YouTube Channel:
https://www.youtube.co​m …/UCgAZ5-OKdg1YXONAjGu91zQ (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Left ­ Handed ­ Brisket
Combating camera shame since 1977...
Avatar
9,925 posts
Gallery: 15 photos
Likes: 2398
Joined Jun 2011
Location: The Uwharrie Mts, NC
Post edited over 7 years ago by Left Handed Brisket.
     
Nov 03, 2015 16:55 |  #15

jcolman wrote in post #17764428 (external link)
I disagree. I think your light placement is fine. Moving the light closer to the camera would give you a "flatter" look. The way you have the light positioned gives the image some nice dimension.

this is what i was thinking. while it might not be strictly "natural look" the modeling of the face with the angles between the light, face, and camera work as good or better than the other shots. In the others the cheek bones are a bit flat.


PSA: The above post may contain sarcasm, reply at your own risk | Not in gear database: Auto Sears 50mm 2.0 / 3x CL-360, Nikon SB-28, SunPak auto 322 D, Minolta 20

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

4,574 views & 16 likes for this thread, 12 members have posted to it and it is followed by 8 members.
Wanted to try a new way of lighting
FORUMS Photo Sharing & Discussion Critique Corner 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is Niagara Wedding Photographer
1314 guests, 122 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.