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Oct 31, 2015 09:52 |  #1

Anytime I really like a photo I've taken and the client doesn't select it in their finals for print I start to second guess myself. This kid was really fighting us that day and just wasn't wanting the shoot, so no need to comment on pose or expression. Although any tips on working with young kids (ones that don't really talk much yet and don't take direction) are welcomed.

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Oct 31, 2015 09:58 |  #2

The photos of kids parents seem to love more are more about capturing the child's personality then being a technically better photo.

I find giving kids their natural environment and allow them to be themselves allows for better personality shoots.


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Oct 31, 2015 10:01 |  #3

Communicating with kids is virtually an art form...there's tons of suggestions on a Google Search.


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Oct 31, 2015 10:04 |  #4

Two things that immediately came to mind when I saw the picture:

1. You shot down, so we get a bit of a balcony view. I think portraits in general work much better when the camera is at eye level.
2. I find the dark setting inappropriate for a child. I would expect some Gothic figure in it, not a small boy.

EDIT: I forgot to say that I think it would also have been better for the boy to look into the camera.


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Oct 31, 2015 10:57 |  #5

NickWell24 wrote in post #17766807 (external link)
This kid was really fighting us that day and just wasn't wanting the shoot, so no need to comment on pose or expression.

Please excuse the unneeded comment, but I think the pose and expression are fine. They're more natural than staring down the camera with a forced "Say cheese" smile. The kid looks interested in something. I prefer shots that say "This is Junior being himself" to those that say "This is Junior having his picture taken."

The whole image is too dark for my taste, and the green shirt (presumably the parents' choice) is too colorful; it competes for attention with the face. The downward shooting angle that Levina mentioned doesn't trouble me, as one shot in a varied set with other views.


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Oct 31, 2015 11:02 |  #6

People (parents) like different things and just because they didn't choose this one doesn't speak to how good or bad a photo it is. It just says that they liked other photos better.


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Nov 03, 2015 09:41 |  #7

exposure/processing is too dark and I would like to see the subject a little more to the right if possible.


start printing out pictures of the kid for his own uses, that will get him more into being photographed. at least it worked for mine.


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Nov 03, 2015 09:53 |  #8

Heya,

I feel your pain, I'm always working with kids. Tough stuff. I too do it with a Rovelight often. But more and more I'm just ganging up speedlites.

A few things I've learned just doing lots of young kids (the kind that do not take direction/commands or hold still, etc):

1. Having an assistant to manage the light source is a huge help. I still do it often by myself, which is super hard. But when I do have an assistant, wow, it helps so much.
2. Proximity to child is a big deal, they clam up if you're up in their face with big modifiers and a camera clicking away. I often go long for this reason.
3. Prediction of where they will go, and what they will do is a big deal. Talk to the parent(s) to get an idea of how they tend to behave.
4. Over-exposing skin and dropping it in post is a good way to go, angel skin.
5. Parents never select photos based on technical aspects, they just look for what connects them to the child, so it may be the blurry photo with the weird facial expression. Don't worry about it!

Unless I'm shooting in bright sun, I leave the Rovelight out. I use the Rovelight for knocking out the sun purposes or extremely long range with a big modifier as "omnidirectional fill" in a way. I find that speedlites are so much easier with kids. You can set up a few and face them in a few directions and just hang out on the perimeter and let the kid play, zoom the speedlite and just generally face them towards where they're playing and capture with telephoto waiting for facial expressions. I do bursts of faces to capture small micro-expressions. I also like speedlites because the kids never, ever stay where you want them to, and moving the Rovelight takes effort. When I'm doing this in the Florida heat, it's a physical chore that gets very tiresome! A bare speedlite on a stand weighs nothing, and can quickly be placed and moved. Again, I like to have lots of options. More and more, I shoot natural light when I can when it comes to kids that are hard and I just make sure to over-expose and drop in post later for the bright smooth skin.

As for prediction, I know it's a tall order, but getting to know some of their common habits helps you to be in the right place for the behavior. For example, if the kid does something and often looks to a specific parent, you can place the parent so that the kid will look that way and be some where to capture that look. That's the kind of stuff I meant. For small children, I use this with the parent. A fun example I use with 2 year olds, is the parent spins around with the kid or does something fun that the kid likes, then puts them down and have them jog a direction that you want the child to then go, while still cackling and smiling, and have yourself in a place where your light and your lens are waiting for them to cross into your path chasing the parent. Again, just predictive stuff like that helps you line up shots with uncooperative kids. Little kids always want their parent so being far away and using the parent to guide the child where you want them and guide where they look, will give you more opportunities!

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Nov 03, 2015 14:44 |  #9

Im not digging the PP on this. At first glance I thought it was a cgi kid.

Overall I can see why maybe the parents didnt pick this photos. They usually want smiles and more of a happy light tone. If you like this style of photo for your portfolio just make sure at the shoot shot "sellable images" then shoot some that you like.


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