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Nov 02, 2015 15:59 |  #1

I have had this protector on both my 60d and t3i since brand new. http://www.bhphotovide​o.com/c/product/860359​-REG (external link)

Its still in great shape, but was wondering if anyone used these and how hard of a time they had getting them off. It says to use a hair dryer, which concerns me a little, especially with all the double sided tape holding the rubber grips on. Anyone ever had these and have taken them off? Any problems?


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Nov 02, 2015 16:28 |  #2

I would be hesitant to use anything with adhesive to stick on the screen. I have yet to find adhesive that does not leave residue after long exposure. This is the last thing I would like to see on my camera should I want to replace the protector or to sell a camera.




  
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Nov 02, 2015 20:47 |  #3

This was how i did my 40D rear screen Im sure its applicable to a screen protector, put a small suction cup more to a corner of glass, you have to wear gloves the heat from the dryer is really hot!!! keep the dryer moving over the glass in a about a minute the corner will lift, keep moving the dryer around the perimeter of lcd and it will lift off. I used a suction cup from my Christmas lights it had a little "S" hook on it which help me pull on the suction cup.


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Nov 04, 2015 11:13 |  #4

Frodge wrote in post #17769751 (external link)
I have had this protector on both my 60d and t3i since brand new. http://www.bhphotovide​o.com/c/product/860359​-REG (external link)

Its still in great shape, but was wondering if anyone used these and how hard of a time they had getting them off. It says to use a hair dryer, which concerns me a little, especially with all the double sided tape holding the rubber grips on. Anyone ever had these and have taken them off? Any problems?

That's the same way you remove the Giotto's Schlott glass LCD projector. If it works like the Giotto, the hair dryer, preferably with a front attachment to direct the air, should be used only a few inches away from the edge of the screen protector.You shouldn't be anywhere near the rubber grip. It may take a minute or two of fairly hot air to do the trick. It will loosen the glue a bit and you can then easily pry it up. It would help if you remember when the original glue points were. With the Giotto there is no glue residue. Can't speak for the Vello version.


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Nov 04, 2015 11:19 |  #5

I have no intention of really ever taking it up. It still looks perfect and feel it offers significant protection from scratches and impact damage. I believe the glue was a thin margin around the perimeter...

Also, I read somewhere that cello is the B+H house brand and that it is made buy giottos or one of several other companies and b+h uses whoever is cheaper to fulfill their demand at any given moment. Its definitely nice looking and holds up well.


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Nov 05, 2015 06:44 |  #6

Don't use heat. I change out the Giottos protectors about once every 2-3 months. Use dental floss. Start at one corner, tension the floss and start pulling it under the corner. Once it gets moving, pull upward while sawing back and forth. It'll cut the glue ring and pull the protector off without any problems.




  
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Nov 05, 2015 07:52 as a reply to  @ docholliday_sc001's post |  #7

Thanks for the tip. The heat never sounded like a good idea. I know the LCD cover is held on with double sided tape. Thanks. I believe the cello and giotto is made by the same factory. How do you clean up adhesive, if any at all is left behind...


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Nov 05, 2015 10:10 |  #8

docholliday_sc001 wrote in post #17773042 (external link)
Don't use heat. I change out the Giottos protectors about once every 2-3 months. Use dental floss. Start at one corner, tension the floss and start pulling it under the corner. Once it gets moving, pull upward while sawing back and forth. It'll cut the glue ring and pull the protector off without any problems.

You put on a new Giotto Schlott glass protector every two or three months? Why? I've had mine on my 7D2 for the last five months and it's as good as new. At $45 a pop that really adds up. Additionally, there is no glue ring on the Giotto Schlott glass. There are only three glue points. Two on the top, and one on the bottom. The rest of the surround is not glue.. It's cushioning to support the glass and prevent dust from getting under it. Exactly which model protector are you referring to?


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Nov 05, 2015 10:47 |  #9

My cameras have had vello for years. No scratches. No need to ever change at this point, not withstanding damage.


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Nov 05, 2015 11:14 |  #10

Frodge wrote in post #17773259 (external link)
My cameras have had vello for years. No scratches. No need to ever change at this point, not withstanding damage.

Glad they are working for you.


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Nov 05, 2015 11:26 as a reply to  @ mwsilver's post |  #11

I didn't mean change brands, I meant change them out every 3 months. I would only ever remove if they became scratched or broken. Like I said, Giotto's and cello are made in the same factory I believe.


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Nov 06, 2015 01:18 |  #12

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You put on a new Giotto Schlott glass protector every two or three months? Why? I've had mine on my 7D2 for the last five months and it's as good as new. At $45 a pop that really adds up. Additionally, there is no glue ring on the Giotto Schlott glass. There are only three glue points. Two on the top, and one on the bottom. The rest of the surround is not glue.. It's cushioning to support the glass and prevent dust from getting under it. Exactly which model protector are you referring to?

Yeah, I have a habit of scratching them heavily after a few months. Usually from a titanium flashlight clip or knife clip sticking out of a pocket if I'm the cause, or getting chipped by heavy usage of the camera. Also had high heat cause the adhesive to soften and slide the glass off. Other times, the coating gets trashed and after a while, the screen becomes hard to see through the nasty reflections.

There is a full 3M 200MP ring around the edge (that's the tape type). Mine are all used on 1Ds3 and 1Dx screens. Full-tape-ring. No cushioning. The tape itself is the cushion. There's also been quite a few times where I've pulled the tape off the glass - all the way around and replaced it with 300MP for higher adhesion in high temp environments.

Never had to use heat to get the protectors off, just cut through the tape with dental floss and pulled the whole glass off.

Biggest problem is that there is still an air gap between the protector and screen causing some reflections. Currently, I'm testing a tempered glass one that's not coated at all and held on using a thin layer of silicone adhesive (like the tempered glass ones for cell phones). Much better so far and no coatings to trash! Plus, less reflections (it's "bonded" to the screen) and rounded edges - no chipping so far.




  
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Yeah, I have a habit of scratching them heavily after a few months. Usually from a titanium flashlight clip or knife clip sticking out of a pocket if I'm the cause, or getting chipped by heavy usage of the camera. Also had high heat cause the adhesive to soften and slide the glass off. Other times, the coating gets trashed and after a while, the screen becomes hard to see through the nasty reflections.

There is a full 3M 200MP ring around the edge (that's the tape type). Mine are all used on 1Ds3 and 1Dx screens. Full-tape-ring. No cushioning. The tape itself is the cushion. There's also been quite a few times where I've pulled the tape off the glass - all the way around and replaced it with 300MP for higher adhesion in high temp environments.

Never had to use heat to get the protectors off, just cut through the tape with dental floss and pulled the whole glass off.

Biggest problem is that there is still an air gap between the protector and screen causing some reflections. Currently, I'm testing a tempered glass one that's not coated at all and held on using a thin layer of silicone adhesive (like the tempered glass ones for cell phones). Much better so far and no coatings to trash! Plus, less reflections (it's "bonded" to the screen) and rounded edges - no chipping so far.

It sound like the design of the Giotto screen protector you have is completely different then the Schlott glass version on my 7D2. Is yours made of glass? Mine is barely wider than the LCD screen and there would be no room for tape. The three glue points (two on the top and one on the bottom edge) are very small, white rectangles. In between them is a greyish colored and thin non-glue compound that provides cushioning against the camera and keeps out dust. The glue itself leaves no residue when the screen is removed. You must be very rough with your gear if you need to change the protector every couple of months. I know several outdoor photographers who work in all kinds of conditions and don't use a screen protector at all. It begs the question what you would do you if screen protectors were not available.

Edit: The images of the Schlott Class Giotto meant for the 1Dx on B&H looks identical to mine which makes your description even more confusing to me. I'm not doubting you. I just don't understand why the products would be so different.


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Nov 06, 2015 15:31 |  #14

mwsilver wrote in post #17774185 (external link)
It sound like the design of the Giotto screen protector you have is completely different then the Schlott glass version on my 7D2. Is yours made of glass? Mine is barely wider than the LCD screen and there would be no room for tape. The three glue points (two on the top and one on the bottom edge) are very small, white rectangles. In between them is a greyish colored and thin non-glue compound that provides cushioning against the camera and keeps out dust. The glue itself leaves no residue when the screen is removed. You must be very rough with your gear if you need to change the protector every couple of months. I know several outdoor photographers who work in all kinds of conditions and don't use a screen protector at all. It begs the question what you would do you if screen protectors were not available.

Edit: The images of the Schlott Class Giotto meant for the 1Dx on B&H looks identical to mine which makes your description even more confusing to me. I'm not doubting you. I just don't understand why the products would be so different.

It's the same Schott glass multicoated protector. And the one for my 1D3/1Ds3 was full glass, as was the 1Ds2 protector before that. And they all had a tape ring all the way around.

Before applying the protector, I already had to send the camera back for a screen replacement (these Clearview's can't have the coverglass changed, it's considered a full screen replacement including the LCD). It ain't cheap, so the $40 for each Giottos is very affordable in comparison. And yes, I am really rough on gear. You should see how many laptop parts I go through in a year - I replace keyboards about once a year and the touchscreen about once a year too from heavy scratching. I had used the 3M protectors on it before, but they make the Wacom pen feel weird so it's cheaper and easier to just pull the screen apart and replace the touch layer.




  
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Nov 06, 2015 15:35 |  #15

docholliday_sc001 wrote in post #17774614 (external link)
It's the same Schott glass multicoated protector. And the one for my 1D3/1Ds3 was full glass, as was the 1Ds2 protector before that. And they all had a tape ring all the way around.

Before applying the protector, I already had to send the camera back for a screen replacement (these Clearview's can't have the coverglass changed, it's considered a full screen replacement including the LCD). It ain't cheap, so the $40 for each Giottos is very affordable in comparison. And yes, I am really rough on gear. You should see how many laptops I go through in a year.

No tape ring around mine. I have an extra one unused in a box and just checked it out. I assume (hope) you're joking about the lapstops


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