Godox TTL AD360II and X1

echelonphoto wrote in post #17792733
Thanks for all your hard work...see you are getting frustrated. Just one question...if the x1 can control the on camera flash and off camera flash via its menu...how easy is it to adjust each group on the fly

I never get frustrated with people asking questions but some times the process of communicating in a forum atmosphere, where having to put thought to pen gets frustrating. It is much easier and a lot quicker to either make a video or just talk to someone directly. Eventually and hopefully everything get's worked out in the end and people get answers to their questions.

The X1 menu is very easy to navigate. Group A is the ONC flash and if you use the other Groups, B-E, for the OFC you should have not problem. I just do not understand why you would want to use this setup when you think that the 600EX is to big for your camera? The X1 and a 430EX are going to be a much bigger, heavier and more unwieldly than a single 600EX. Also as I stated the foot of the X1 is the weak link in the deal of trying to stack a flash on the X1.

I would suggest either going with a 430EX III-RT ONC and using the Phottix Laso receiver to control the AD 360IIc or go with a Godox TT685c ONC as the Master and then directly controlling the AD 360IIc as the Slave.
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I just bought this unit and was only able to get it to fire under Slave mode with the X1-C on camera. I found out that only under ETTL that I shoot at all shutter speed. In Manual, anything above the camera sync speed1/200-1/4000 (Canon 6D - 1/160) then it would fire. Anything below it would not. Anyone have that problem?

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so the laso receiver can be controlled by the 430 exIII? as well as all functions, including hss on the godox 360? I currently use the 430 ex atop my photix stratos on camera and find it to be ok...is the x1 transmitter really that bulky?

echelonphoto wrote in post #17794095
so the laso receiver can be controlled by the 430 exIII? as well as all functions, including hss on the godox 360? I currently use the 430 ex atop my photix stratos on camera and find it to be ok...is the x1 transmitter really that bulky?

Weight: 430EX and X1-C combo with batteries 21.7 oz
600EX-RT with batteries 19.4 oz


Height above hot shoe using Canon specs which is in forward flash position: 430EX and X1-C combo.... 6.6 inches / while 600EX-RT...... 5.6 inches (straight up position 7.5 inches)

So when you made this statement "I cannot use the 600 rt's on camera because of weight...just too large and bulky" I would think that the combo of a 430EX and X1 would not even be a consideration since it is heavier, taller, bulkier etc....

Then when you add in the fact that all this weight is depending on the X1-C foot to support all of it...?

The Laso receiver has been working with the Canon 600EX-RT but I have not tested the 430EX IIIRT because I do not have one. I may buy one if I decide to stay with the Canon Wireless RT system and integrate the AD 360II into the system. I still have more testing with the Laso receiver and the AD360II before I say for certain that it is a reliable setup to use in the Wireless RT system. So my speculation that the 430EX IIIRT and Laso receiver would work for you is just speculative at this point.

One thing you also have to understand about my style of shooting.....outdoors , I only use a transmitter on camera, because ALL flash is off camera. So that keeps me light and mobile...of course I always bring an assistant.

agv8or, do you have any problem with the Godox AD360II not shooting it below 1/160? And if you were able to do it that, were you able to do it in manual slave mode?

echelonphoto wrote in post #17795104
One thing you also have to understand about my style of shooting.....outdoors , I only use a transmitter on camera, because ALL flash is off camera. So that keeps me light and mobile...of course I always bring an assistant.

At the end of the day, you know what you want accomplish, and any recommendation I give is based solely on comments you make and the way I interpret them. I plan to do further testing, especially with the Canon Wireless RT system since this is how I plan to use AD 360II's. I hope the information I have provided up till now has been somewhat useful and like I said I more than willing to test something specific with the equipment I have. The X1-C system works, and works well although it is a bit strange in how it works. The x1 menu is very easy and quick to use although there are some TTL issues that I have discussed previously. The AD360IIc and TT685c have so far worked reliably with the Godox 2.4G wireless system but here again there is an issue with TTL exposures, I previously mentioned. Both the AD360II and TT685 need further testing using the Canon Wireless RT system and various components but, I am slowly narrowing it down to what works and what doesn't.

level5photog wrote in post #17795436
agv8or, do you have any problem with the Godox AD360II not shooting it below 1/160? And if you were able to do it that, were you able to do it in manual slave mode?

No problem here. I tested the AD360II as a Slave, with the X1-c, the TT685c and the ST-E3-RT/Laso RX. I had no issues using all three transmitters in Manual Wireless mode, shooting at shutter speeds from 1/60 - 1/200 in 1/3 stop increments. Not sure what problems I was supposed to be looking though. I had no misfires, clean frames and consistent exposures.

What are you using for a transmitter? What problems are you experiencing?

I have X1-C as my transmitter with Godox AD 360 II in slave mode. When I shoot in ETTL, the Godox fired in all shutter speed. In Manual Slave mode, the flash would not fire in shutter less than 1/160.

level5photog wrote in post #17795746
I have X1-C as my transmitter with Godox AD 360 II in slave mode. When I shoot in ETTL, the Godox fired in all shutter speed. In Manual Slave mode, the flash would not fire in shutter less than 1/160.

Is the flash actually not firing or is the flash firing but you are getting no flash exposure? Do you have any flash sync timing set in custom function (Fn 00) of the X1-C? If you have a large amount of flash sync timing dialed in then your flash will not properly expose the sensor at shutter speeds below max sync but it will when you increase your shutter speed above max sync. If you have any flash sync timing dialed in then a little timer will be displayed in the middle on the right side of the display. If this timer is displayed then hold the top button down for a few seconds until your custom functions are displayed and set your flash sync timing to "00" under (Fn 00). More than likely this is your issue and you probably have around 60 or so set for your flash sync timing.

My flash is not firing under manual at 1/160 or below. I've reset the Godox AD360 setting - no help. Custom function FN for X1-C is 00

Found out if I shoot manual using Wireless: Radio Transmission, it would not fire the flash at 1/160 or below. It only shoot under manual at 1/160 or below if wireless optical.

level5photog wrote in post #17795921
My flash is not firing under manual at 1/160 or below. I've reset the Godox AD360 setting - no help. Custom function FN for X1-C is 00

"I've reset the Godox AD360 setting - no help". Do you mean that you held the center two buttons on the AD360II to reset it?

So just to be clear, there is no little timer indicator displayed in the menu window and when you go into the custom functions this is what you see in the menu display?

Fn
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00


Your issue is only when the AD360II is in the Wireless Radio Slave configuration, in the Manual mode, when using the X1-C as the transmitter? Are you for sure in the Manual mode and not the Multi mode? The Manual mode has an "M" preceding the flash power setting where the Multi mode only displays the flash power setting.

When you set a shutter speed above max sync does the HSS icon display in the window of the AD360II when you press the shutter button? And, when you set a shutter speed slower than max sync does the HSS icon disappear in the window of the AD360II when you press the shutter button? Just making sure your transmitter is communicating with the flash correctly.

I have tried to recreate your setup with a 5DmII and 5DmIII, with 2 separate X1-c transmitters and 2 AD360IIc's but I have no issues.

FN is
00
00.

I used the two center button to reset it.

I am sure I'm in manual mode which is indicated by the big M and in slave mode.

Anything above 1/160 has the H icon and below is doesn't have it. Look like my issue is only Wireless Radio Slave setting. Optical wireless using manual and ETTL work fine.

level5photog wrote in post #17796164
FN is
00
00.

I used the two center button to reset it.

I am sure I'm in manual mode which is indicated by the big M and in slave mode.

Anything above 1/160 has the H icon and below is doesn't have it. Look like my issue is only Wireless Radio Slave setting. Optical wireless using manual and ETTL work fine.

I am at a loss as to what the issue is or even what device is the cause. It sounds like a communication issue and the X1 automatically takes control of HSS in both the camera and the Slave. As I previously stated in a prior post, I had an X1-C transmitter that was not firing the strobe even though it was communicating information to the strobe. It was not an option to return the transmitter, not worth my time or expense, so I took it apart and found that the internal wiring had been routed wrong and the trigger wire was shorting to the circuit board of sync ports. I rerouted the wiring to the back of the transmitter and now it works. So not sure if you may have a similar issue with one of the wires doing the same thing or just a faulty transmitter. Could be an issue with the 6D and X1-C combo that would require a firmware up date. Make sure you have the most current firmware update as this fixes the issue with using the <Gr> mode. Elvis posted the link here: https://photography-on-the.net …showthread.php?​p=17782941


Did you read my post about the battery issue with the X1-C? Both my X1-C's had issues either not turning on or with the power to the transmitter being interrupted intermittently. You can just press on the outside edge of the battery cover and see if your transmitter turns off or if it doesn't always come on when your turn it on. Here is the post where I talked about the fix: https://photography-on-the.net …showthread.php?​p=17782795