Upgrade from 70D, 7DmkII or 6D?

ksbal wrote in post #17779151
then loosing 1/250 sync down to 1/125 makes a difference when using non is lenses. So I have two reasons why I am going to sell the 5DII, AF and slow sync.

The sync speed of the 6D is 1/180.

Based on what you like to photograph and current gear the 7D Mark II seems the most prudent choice. It's quite good and a worthy upgrade for you, and at the moment has the longest shelf life. Since the 5D4 and 6D2 rumors abound it makes sense to wait unless an incredible bargain comes along (and you want a 2nd body).

On the question of BOTH, since you don't have much in the list that requires low-light photography I'd say the 5Diii, which has an added benefit of supporting your action-based photography with much better AF system than the 6D.

I'm not knocking the 6D, I have all three bodies and use them. I think its AF is fine, but it's not the body I pick up for anything related to action photography. If it's all I have I can make it work, but with less confidence of the number of keepers I have.

Good luck!

Not sure if I mentioned this already, but I won't be making my purchase until early next spring. I am researching now as I want to be fully prepared when I am ready to buy. I sort of impulse bought my 70D and sometimes I regret doing that (don't regret the camera itself, just how I made my decision).

Another question, what are the actual focus points like on the the 6D. One of the things that bothers my with my 70D is the actual size of the focus point squares in the viewfinder. Many times I've wished that they were smaller to allow more precise focusing. I've read that you can make the points smaller on the 5DmkIII for this specific reason, which is something I really like. Can you also do that on the 7DmkII?

Yes as single spot focus ( Spot Auto Focus. With this mode, you choose the focus point for pin point precision. This setting is much like the one I will explain next, but as you can see, there’s a focus point within the focus point on the screen display. This is the most precise option and excellent for macro photography, the top of a newborn’s head or the ‘ring shot’ at a wedding. Although this gives you the ability to focus on a very tiny and precise area of the scene, it is not good for moving subjects because the area of focus is just so small.) BUT I have found it to not be anymore accurate than regular focus point

That's good to know, thank you for all the help BTW, you have all been very helpful.

And I assume there is no precise spot focusing options on the 6D?

And finally what about dynamic range between the 7DmkII and 6D/5DmkIII? Specifically shadow recovery.

keep 70D and grab a 6d to compliment it...or go with a 5dmkiii

I upgraded from a 40d to a 6d last spring (was considering the 7dII as well), and I'm very happy with my decision. My reasons for upgrade were mostly lowlight/high ISO capabilities and wanting my lenses to have a wider frame of view to be more useful for the main types of photography I do.

However, I think an important consideration is whether you want to end up with one camera or two. You said you may be able to stretch to get a 5diii, but that would be your only camera at that point. Would you rather one camera only, or do you find benefit in two? For me, having a backup is a great reason for two in itself (and I'm not a professional, but backup for important personal events and trips is important to me). Additionally, it sounds like having the option of crop and full frame may benefit you for your photo interests. Something worth thinking about anyway!

I happen to have two cameras (6D & T4i). I share these with my wife. She loves wildlife photography so she tends to use the crop camera while I do more macro and landscape with the 6D. But sometimes we trade off.

Two camera's gives you more flexibility, and is a good backup.

I think your 70D plus a 6D would be better for you than just a single 7D2 or a single 5D3.

JMHO.

My current train of thought is I would like to have two bodies, and having the 70D for the extra reach from the crop sensor along with the full frame 6D will make myself a nice combo.

I have months before I make the purchase, so my decision may change. But if I was buying right now, I think I'd pull the trigger on a 6D. Even so, if I find the 6D lacking and my photography keep expanding, I can always upgrade the following year to another full frame with better AF.

Just want to thank you all for your insight and help. I greatly appreciate it. And maybe this thread can help others in the future if they find themselves in a similar situation.

I'd vote for the 6D also and keep the 70D for the AF and extra reach. Would be a great combo. I love the 6D but miss the 70D for it's AF.

Strauss wrote in post #17778753
It could be an option, but considering how close the cost is between them, I'd rather go for the newer 6D. Not to mention the 6D gives me the amazing center focus point that will focus in almost complete darkness.

Agreed. After trolling for a while, I found a 6D on the cheap. I also only have SD cards, so the 5D II would have been annoying to get storage for (another thing to consider).

I keep thinking about adding a 70D or 7D2 body to my kit, so that I can do wildlife shooting again. I replaced my 60D with a 6D, because I wanted to focus on landscape, portraiture and fashion, but it's a terrible wildlife camera because of the AF system and slow frame rate. I personally wouldn't trade up to a 5D3 to include wildlife again, because I know either of the APS-C cameras could do the job better with the lenses I can afford. I'd rather have the second body as a backup too.

I think the 6D seems to fit your subject types and preferences. I have the 7D II (and original) along with the 5D Mark III. Not sure the strengths of the 7D II will contribute that much to you. So you would be paying for features that may not be high value. The IQ of the 6D is of high quality. Now, regardless of your choice - can ya wait a few weeks and let the Christmas sales hit? You won't be disappointed by either choice.

absplastic wrote in post #17781518
I keep thinking about adding a 70D or 7D2 body to my kit, so that I can do wildlife shooting again. I replaced my 60D with a 6D, because I wanted to focus on landscape, portraiture and fashion, but it's a terrible wildlife camera because of the AF system and slow frame rate. I personally wouldn't trade up to a 5D3 to include wildlife again, because I know either of the APS-C cameras could do the job better with the lenses I can afford. I'd rather have the second body as a backup too.

That's my situation too. I don't have a 6D because I don't take many landscape photographs. When I do, I have a couple lenses that will work but I'm sure I'd see a great improvement with the right lenses and a 6D or 5D3. The problem is the expense.

The exact same problem for wildlife. I can afford a 7D2 and 100-400L ii and in fact, that's what I have. I couldn't afford a full frame camera with a comparable AF system and the lens to go with it. To get a similar field of view with a full frame camera, I'd have to have a 600mm lens... or at the very least, a 500mm with a 1.4X teleconverter. I can afford the teleconverter. I know the arguments about the better quality so you can crop a bit and get the same results. That might be the case.... but I'm pretty comfortable with my 7D2/100-400L ii combo. It's fun to use.

If you shoot sports and portraits witch one.