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Nov 12, 2015 15:02 |  #1

i see lots of photographers out and about with a ring screwed into the tripod socket and then hanging by their sides off a across the chest sling type strap...

what exactly would i be looking for if i were to "go shopping" for something like this?

any particular brands to avoid or to seek out?


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Nov 12, 2015 15:09 |  #2

Do a google search for

- quick release sling strap -

The results should keep you busy for a few days :-) Results should also give some indication of major brands to focus on. Those to avoid don't last long, for obvious reasons.




  
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Nov 17, 2015 11:54 |  #3

Ltdave wrote in post #17781366 (external link)
i see lots of photographers out and about with a ring screwed into the tripod socket and then hanging by their sides off a across the chest sling type strap...

what exactly would i be looking for if i were to "go shopping" for something like this?

any particular brands to avoid or to seek out?

Sling straps is what they are known.

BlackRapid, Custom SLR, Luma Labs are some brands that make sling straps. BlackRapid is more popular but I opt for Custom SLR, Luma or Peak Design straps.

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Nov 18, 2015 11:51 as a reply to  @ iazybandit's post |  #4

They seem to be popular, but I've never seen anyone using one while carrying a tripod. Is there a system that will still allow the camera access to a tripod without removing the sling strap apparatus?


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Nov 18, 2015 13:18 as a reply to  @ JJD.Photography's post |  #5

You can go with the M-Plate Pro option where the sling attaches to the plate itself while still allowing access to a tripod clamp.
http://www.customslr.c​om/products/m-plate-pro (external link)

Or, you could get an Arca Swiss clamp to attach to your sling and clamp it to your camera/lens plate while carrying, then unclamp the sling and clamp into the tripod when needed.
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Nov 18, 2015 13:46 |  #6

JJD.Photography wrote in post #17788617 (external link)
They seem to be popular, but I've never seen anyone using one while carrying a tripod. Is there a system that will still allow the camera access to a tripod without removing the sling strap apparatus?

There are ways and workarounds. I shot with a BlackRapid strap for about 5 years. Being a habitual tripod user I didn't care too much for the prescribed strap mounting option. I got around this by adding an Op-Tech utility loop to the strap lug and then attaching the strap to that.

That worked great, but ultimately I found I didn't care for the way the camera flops around when walking or especially when bending down/leaning over. I decided to give the Luma Cinch a try. Luma has a "membrane" adapter that goes under your tripod plate (or in my case the L bracket) to provide a place for one side of the strap to attach. The other end of the strap attaches to the strap lug. The length of the strap can be adjusted very quickly so that it stays tight against your body when the camera isn't being used. Adjustments are easy and intuitive. The shortened strap makes maneuvering with the camera much easier while the extra length makes means the strap is never in the way when shooting. The Luma Cinch is very comfy and easy to use, while also being very nondescript.

Next to the Luma strap is the Peak Design Slide strap. The slide essentially steals the idea of the Luma and then polishes it up with a flashy look. The PD strap uses quick release anchors to hold the strap so you can quickly remove the strap if you need to. You can attach the lower anchor to the tripod plate, or you can use it in conjunction with the Luma Membrane under an L bracket. The Peak Design strap has a much flashier, more "refined" look to it over the Luma. It also has the quick release functionality which can be a boon if you want to use it with more than one camera, or reconfigure it for longer lenses. Where it falls short of the Luma are in comfort and ease of use. The strap itself is slightly shorter than the Luma, and to shorten it the movement is the opposite of the Luma. This means that to shorten the strap on the left side you are trying to pull the camera "up" the strap while moving your arm behind you. The strap essentially has you trying to give yourself a reach around, which I have found to be rather annoying. The PD is also not as comfortable as the Luma, with the wider band biting into the side of your neck where the softer neoprene of the Luma simply conforms to the shape of your neck and shoulder.

Having used BR style sliding sling straps for years, and now owning both the Luma Cinch and the Peak Design Slide, I'd say that the Luma Cinch is the best strap from a comfort and ease of use standpoint, while the PD strap is still fairly easy to use and mostly comfortable enough while offering the added functionality of it's quick release system. The sliding slings like Black Rapid, as far as I'm concerned, are a thing of the past.


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Nov 18, 2015 21:38 |  #7

wyntastr wrote in post #17788707 (external link)
You can go with the M-Plate Pro option where the sling attaches to the plate itself while still allowing access to a tripod clamp.
http://www.customslr.c​om/products/m-plate-pro (external link)

Or, you could get an Arca Swiss clamp to attach to your sling and clamp it to your camera/lens plate while carrying, then unclamp the sling and clamp into the tripod when needed.
http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …ech_1146_Swift_​Clamp.html (external link)

Here is a detailed review of the M-Plate Pro for anyone interested - http://www.1kindphotog​raphy.com …-plate-pro-universal.html (external link)

Scatterbrained wrote in post #17788741 (external link)
There are ways and workarounds. I shot with a BlackRapid strap for about 5 years. Being a habitual tripod user I didn't care too much for the prescribed strap mounting option. I got around this by adding an Op-Tech utility loop to the strap lug and then attaching the strap to that.

That worked great, but ultimately I found I didn't care for the way the camera flops around when walking or especially when bending down/leaning over. I decided to give the Luma Cinch a try. Luma has a "membrane" adapter that goes under your tripod plate (or in my case the L bracket) to provide a place for one side of the strap to attach. The other end of the strap attaches to the strap lug. The length of the strap can be adjusted very quickly so that it stays tight against your body when the camera isn't being used. Adjustments are easy and intuitive. The shortened strap makes maneuvering with the camera much easier while the extra length makes means the strap is never in the way when shooting. The Luma Cinch is very comfy and easy to use, while also being very nondescript.

Next to the Luma strap is the Peak Design Slide strap. The slide essentially steals the idea of the Luma and then polishes it up with a flashy look. The PD strap uses quick release anchors to hold the strap so you can quickly remove the strap if you need to. You can attach the lower anchor to the tripod plate, or you can use it in conjunction with the Luma Membrane under an L bracket. The Peak Design strap has a much flashier, more "refined" look to it over the Luma. It also has the quick release functionality which can be a boon if you want to use it with more than one camera, or reconfigure it for longer lenses. Where it falls short of the Luma are in comfort and ease of use. The strap itself is slightly shorter than the Luma, and to shorten it the movement is the opposite of the Luma. This means that to shorten the strap on the left side you are trying to pull the camera "up" the strap while moving your arm behind you. The strap essentially has you trying to give yourself a reach around, which I have found to be rather annoying. The PD is also not as comfortable as the Luma, with the wider band biting into the side of your neck where the softer neoprene of the Luma simply conforms to the shape of your neck and shoulder.

Having used BR style sliding sling straps for years, and now owning both the Luma Cinch and the Peak Design Slide, I'd say that the Luma Cinch is the best strap from a comfort and ease of use standpoint, while the PD strap is still fairly easy to use and mostly comfortable enough while offering the added functionality of it's quick release system. The sliding slings like Black Rapid, as far as I'm concerned, are a thing of the past.

I wouldn't say PD stole Luma's idea. Having reviewed Luma straps and Peak Design's (http://www.1kindphotog​raphy.com/p/reviews_2.​html#straps) (external link), I don't think they are anything alike other than being camera straps. Different connection points and the cinch isn't a new or created by Luma. CarrySpeed, Custom SLR and other straps have a cinch feature which I'm sure they followed from Luma which they have started the trend. Saying PD stole Luma's idea is just as bad as BR claiming they are the first to patent sling straps (which they aren't). I guess Luma Loop 3 copied BR's sliding of a sling strap? Different connection points but they slide. Concept can't be stolen but design and look can. Stealing is just a harsh word since no one company or person owns any ideas or concept.

I do agree that the Luma straps are comfy. Peak Design items definitely have a flashier look to them. I'm sure if Luma went to crowdfunding to get funds for manufacturing, I'm sure things would be different. They'll have more funds to do what they want. Yes, Luma has a softer padding compared to Peak Designs Slide - neoprene vs nylon seatbelt webbing.

I still have my Loop3 but I opt for Peak Design' anchor disconnects. However, you can purchase Peak Design Anchor links (http://www.1kindphotog​raphy.com …-anchor-links-camera.html (external link)) and install it with the Cinch for that quick disconnect.


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Nov 18, 2015 21:50 |  #8

JJD.Photography wrote in post #17788617 (external link)
They seem to be popular, but I've never seen anyone using one while carrying a tripod. Is there a system that will still allow the camera access to a tripod without removing the sling strap apparatus?

As mentioned, Custom SLR M-Plate Pro which makes the mounting on the bottom of the camera offset

Peak Design Slide Strap - http://www.1kindphotog​raphy.com …e-camera-sling-strap.html (external link). Their plate is ARCA/Manfrotto RC2 compatible and you can still have the strap left on while mounted to the tripod.

Luma Cinch 2 with their plate - http://www.1kindphotog​raphy.com …cinch-2-camera-strap.html (external link)

Custom SLR AirStrap - http://www.1kindphotog​raphy.com …p-camera-sling-strap.html (external link)

Custom SLR Split Strap - http://www.1kindphotog​raphy.com …r-camera-split-strap.html (external link)

Custom SLR Glide Strap - http://www.1kindphotog​raphy.com …r-glide-camera-split.html (external link)

CAMSPro. I reviewed their preproduction sample but you can see how it works - http://www.1kindphotog​raphy.com …ap-camera-lens-plate.html (external link)


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Nov 18, 2015 22:36 |  #9

JJD.Photography wrote in post #17788617 (external link)
They seem to be popular, but I've never seen anyone using one while carrying a tripod. Is there a system that will still allow the camera access to a tripod without removing the sling strap apparatus?


The Manfrotto tripods have a socket in the tripod spider that a threaded screw on their sling goes into, as pictured in this Bogen 2021 which I owned over a decade ago. It does not interfere with use of the tripod and does not have to be removed to set up and use the tripod.

IMAGE: http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i63/wiltonw/Equipment/IMG_0298.jpg

When I purchased my Gitzo, I didn't have the threaded hole in the tripod spider, so instead I use an OpTech Super Classic strap with 'binocular loop' ends. The head end loop is pictured here,

IMAGE: http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i63/wiltonw/Equipment/IMG_3173_zps92l90xm5.jpg

and the other end of the strap goes to a single leg, so that I do not have to release the strap end in order to spread open the tripod legs, yet when the strap is over my shoulder it pulls closed that leg against the other two legs and my body...

IMAGE: http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i63/wiltonw/Equipment/IMG_3174_zps2a01hkes.jpg


Very quick and easy to set up a tripod yet travel across good distances with the tripod on my shoulder strap.

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Nov 19, 2015 08:04 |  #10

Wilt wrote in post #17789289 (external link)
The Manfrotto tripods have a socket in the tripod spider that a threaded screw on their sling goes into, as pictured in this Bogen 2021 which I owned over a decade ago. It does not interfere with use of the tripod and does not have to be removed to set up and use the tripod.

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When I purchased my Gitzo, I didn't have the threaded hole in the tripod spider, so instead I use an OpTech Super Classic strap with 'binocular loop' ends. The head end loop is pictured here,

QUOTED IMAGE

and the other end of the strap goes to a single leg, so that I do not have to release the strap end in order to spread open the tripod legs, yet when the strap is over my shoulder it pulls closed that leg against the other two legs and my body...

QUOTED IMAGE

Very quick and easy to set up a tripod yet travel across good distances with the tripod on my shoulder strap.

I think the question from OP is more of the being able to keep the strap attached to the camera while mounted onto the tripod. Not a strap for the tripod.


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Nov 19, 2015 09:20 |  #11

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I think the question from OP is more of the being able to keep the strap attached to the camera while mounted onto the tripod. Not a strap for the tripod.

Having re-read the OP a number of times, I still think the OP is about the 'TRIPOD shoulder strap', unless the OP is so vaguely worded as to mislead the reader.


  1. OTOH, if the OP is indeed seeking the CAMERA supporting strap, the 'chest sling type strap' that one would use, then ..."HARNESS camera STRAP" or "SLING strap"
  2. Or if the OP is seeking a shoulder camera strap with a QUICK RELEASE system, so it can be detached from the camera quickly so it is out of the way (rather than dangling) while the camera is on the tripod, I can suggest that the OP look at the OpTech camera straps, which employ a QR attachment end.


The OP needs to come back and clarify just what they are seeking!

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Nov 19, 2015 11:56 |  #12

I agree with 1KIND that it sounds like the OP is asking for a camera strap, not a tripod strap, since the OP said "a ring screwed into the tripod socket and then hanging by their sides".




  
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Nov 19, 2015 16:03 |  #13

Wilt wrote in post #17789618 (external link)
Having re-read the OP a number of times, I still think the OP is about the 'TRIPOD shoulder strap', unless the OP is so vaguely worded as to mislead the reader.


  1. OTOH, if the OP is indeed seeking the CAMERA supporting strap, the 'chest sling type strap' that one would use, then ..."HARNESS camera STRAP" or "SLING strap"
  2. Or if the OP is seeking a shoulder camera strap with a QUICK RELEASE system, so it can be detached from the camera quickly so it is out of the way (rather than dangling) while the camera is on the tripod, I can suggest that the OP look at the OpTech camera straps, which employ a QR attachment end.


The OP needs to come back and clarify just what they are seeking!

If you re-re-read the original post some more, you can tell that the OP wasn't even sure as to what to call the strap. OP also states "ring screwed into the tripod socket..."

Your setup is probably more suited as a shoulder strap and not a sling strap/chest strap.


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Nov 20, 2015 15:21 |  #14

i have seen several photographers with a cross-chest strap or sling, that is attached to a ring of some sort, screwed into the tripod socket on the bottom of the camera...

this keeps a second camera somewhat easily available but they sure seem to free to swing...

looks like there is a lot of good information coming out regardless of any deviation the thread has taken...


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Nov 22, 2015 08:51 |  #15

+1 for the Custom SLR products - in particular the Glide Strap. The quality is excellent and the straps are very comfortable.




  
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