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Nov 13, 2015 06:38 |  #1

For indoor boudoir style pictures, does it matter? What's your preference for use with speedlites?


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Nov 13, 2015 07:52 |  #2

You'll get far more control with a softbox. How much spill can you put up with. How directional do you want.


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Nov 14, 2015 01:12 |  #3

Softbox too for me, plus a grid if you really want directional light.

No idea why, I've just always hated umbrellas, maybe I just use them wrong though? :oops:


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Nov 14, 2015 23:58 |  #4

I don't do a lot of boudoir, and some of my favorites are natural window light, but here is one where I used artificial lighting. Who can guess the light setup? (It's relevant to this thread)

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Nov 15, 2015 05:35 |  #5

Do you use a ND filter to get the f1.8 with the flash?


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Nov 15, 2015 12:43 as a reply to  @ absplastic's post |  #6

I would say its a Softbox due to what looks like square catch lights.

That being said I use a large 6' umbrella is my rather small space, give is very nice large soft light.




  
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Nov 15, 2015 12:49 |  #7

delta0014 wrote in post #17784360 (external link)
Do you use a ND filter to get the f1.8 with the flash?

No, you just turn down the light.

Edit: actually we don't know what you are shooting or where, so that is kind of impossible to answer.

As windpig said, soft box controls and directs the light, that is the main advantage. Indoors in smallish spaces this can be very important.


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Nov 15, 2015 13:55 |  #8

Left Handed Brisket wrote in post #17784720 (external link)
No, you just turn down the light.

Yes, in this case it was a hotel room at night, with all the lights off, so a very easy situation to control. Single 600ex-rt behind a 32" white shoot-through umbrella to camera left. I preferred this to any other modifier I had with me, because the gradual falloff brought in some of the surroundings. A big softbox would have worked too, but I don't have one that is portable enough or sets up quickly enough to bring with me to a hotel room, and space was also limited.


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Apr 17, 2016 10:49 as a reply to  @ absplastic's post |  #9

I'm new to the forum and to artificial lighting so forgive me for bringing up an old thread... Am I following correctly in that you had the lights off in the room and only used the flash to light this?




  
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Apr 17, 2016 11:03 |  #10

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I'm new to the forum and to artificial lighting so forgive me for bringing up an old thread... Am I following correctly in that you had the lights off in the room and only used the flash to light this?

Apparently from his comment above, along with the fact that the table lamp in back is turned off.


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Apr 17, 2016 12:06 |  #11

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I'm new to the forum and to artificial lighting so forgive me for bringing up an old thread... Am I following correctly in that you had the lights off in the room and only used the flash to light this?

That is correct. It was before sunset with enough light from the windows to see what I was doing, but the only light contributing to the photo is from the single speedlite and umbrella.


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Dec 04, 2016 13:44 |  #12

I like the newest Rogue FlashBender2 with softboxes to go with speedlites, and much prefer that over umbrellas. Though you can do interesting things with collapsed umbrellas, the FlashBender is more portable and I think offers more control via shaping and modifiers. One advantage of an umbrella though is the apparent size of the light source, even for a smaller umbrella. That can be an advantage for reducing specular reflections, and of course the wrap an umbrella offers can be quite glamorous. I think better when you have a lot of room. For instance ability to be farther away from a background, so that less light can fall on it. When this is not possible, something else has to be done. So I find I can gain more control in smaller spaces with a FlashBender.

But for even more lighting control yet also softness, and also for control in very tight spaces, I rather like the 3-in-1 Flash Grid.


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Dec 19, 2016 15:26 |  #13

This is just my two cents - but I prefer using a 36" octobox/softbox with a speedlit and a strobe with an umbrella. But also - I have a seven foot parabolic umbrella, and a speedlit won't give off enough light to make the umbrella worth while. But soft natural/window light always looks amazing in this type of photograph as well.


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Dec 19, 2016 16:53 |  #14

Paul.C wrote in post #18217819 (external link)
This is just my two cents - but I prefer using a 36" octobox/softbox with a speedlit and a strobe with an umbrella. But also - I have a seven foot parabolic umbrella, and a speedlit won't give off enough light to make the umbrella worth while. But soft natural/window light always looks amazing in this type of photograph as well.

Put 2 or 3 lights into that parabolic. I use 2 speed lights in my 6 foot umbrella, works great.




  
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Dec 21, 2016 18:59 |  #15

asattlerphoto wrote in post #17974741 (external link)
Am I following correctly in that you had the lights off in the room and only used the flash to light this?

As a matter of purely personal preference, but I almost never include a lamp in a photo unless it is turned on. Having them on means a little more work balancing levels and temps (daylight vs tungsten). But to me it can look unnatural and kinda cold when lamps that would normally be on are off in the photo.

The tight cropped example in post #4 above looks fine and it might actually be distracting if the lamp were turned on. But I find that the exception rather than the rule.

I have a few examples in my gallery of a strobe light through softbox or umbrella as main or fill with incandescent room lights included in the photos.



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