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Nov 22, 2015 12:40 |  #16

nekrosoft13 wrote in post #17788821 (external link)
Currently i'm stuck with 5DIII and I would really like to switch to something else, a7R II looks great.

Still trying to research adapters and what lenses will work.

Anyone have personal experience with following lenses on a7R II?

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM
Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM
Canon EF 40mm f/2.8 STM
Canon EF 50mm f/1.2 L USM
Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L II IS USM
Canon EF 85mm f/1.2 L USM
Canon EF 100mm f/2.8L IS USM Macro
Sigma 35mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art
Tamron SP 150-600mm f/5-6.3 Di VC USD

What adapter works well? I used to have a7R (mark I) with metabones and camera was decent but AF with canon lenses was awful.

Work Well (I have them)
- 17-40L
- 40 2.8
- 50 1.2
- 70-200 II
- 100L

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- I have the 24-70 F2.8 II (it works very well - you have the the 1 - so not sure)
- I have 85 1.2 II (it works very well - you have 1 - so not sure)
- Sigma 35 F1.4 (I have the Canon 35L 1.4 - it is probably the fastest of all Canon lenses - I believe I have heard the Sigma works well)
- Tamron 150-600 - the Canon 100-400II now works much better but it is really just a portrait type lens as the A7rII just cannot remotely keep up with AI Servo type tracking shots (this is true of all lenses on the A7Rii - do not buy it for its tracking speed)


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Nov 22, 2015 13:07 |  #17

blanex1 wrote in post #17792870 (external link)
i came really close to pulling the trigger on the A7R-2 about 4 months ago!but sat down and asked myself these same questions,as i am not a pro!but just love photography and all that comes with it,i like the sony stuff but find i would rather invest in other canon body's like the 1DX to get the full frame i'm looking for!the A7R-2 is nice but not for 3K,maybe down the road sony will work out the bugs with this camera!and have offer the proper lens adapter for it,for this price the auto focus and speed should be on par with the canon 1DX.

I shoot a 1Dx and an A7RII (using adapted Canon Glass). I find myself grabbing the Sony more often than the 1Dx. Originally the plan was that the 1Dx would be my "daily driver" camera. Something to use when I'm out and about or at an event. The A7RII was going to be my studio camera (excepting portraits). I find myself grabbing the A7RII more and leaving the 1Dx behind.


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Nov 22, 2015 13:33 |  #18

blanex1 wrote in post #17792870 (external link)
i came really close to pulling the trigger on the A7R-2 about 4 months ago!but sat down and asked myself these same questions,as i am not a pro!but just love photography and all that comes with it,i like the sony stuff but find i would rather invest in other canon body's like the 1DX to get the full frame i'm looking for!the A7R-2 is nice but not for 3K,maybe down the road sony will work out the bugs with this camera!and have offer the proper lens adapter for it,for this price the auto focus and speed should be on par with the canon 1DX.

It really depends on what you shoot and how much you really need the predictive AF tracking ability of the 1DX. Its a very specialized need, IMO. I never owned a 1DX, but did own a 5DIII, which was overkill for what I shoot as I never fully utilized the AF system.

The a7r-II is not a sports/wildlife oriented body, and it isn't something you buy if you need the advanced AF tracking ability of the 1DX. There's more to a camera than its AF system, and the value proposition of the 3K asking price is in the sensor and the host of other features in the body. Obviously if shoot sports or wildlife it isn't a good fit, but It offers a lot for the money relative to the competition. The IQ is the real deal.


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Nov 23, 2015 15:30 |  #19
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blanex1 wrote in post #17792870 (external link)
i came really close to pulling the trigger on the A7R-2 about 4 months ago!but sat down and asked myself these same questions,as i am not a pro!but just love photography and all that comes with it,i like the sony stuff but find i would rather invest in other canon body's like the 1DX to get the full frame i'm looking for!the A7R-2 is nice but not for 3K,maybe down the road sony will work out the bugs with this camera!and have offer the proper lens adapter for it,for this price the auto focus and speed should be on par with the canon 1DX.

why not for 3K? so a 3k camera should have AF on par with 6k camera?

with native lenses a7RII would give 1dx run for its money in AF, and destroy 1DX in every other category.


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Nov 25, 2015 10:30 |  #20

nekrosoft13 wrote in post #17794287 (external link)
why not for 3K? so a 3k camera should have AF on par with 6k camera?

with native lenses a7RII would give 1dx run for its money in AF, and destroy 1DX in every other category.

That's more than a bit of an exaggeration.


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Nov 25, 2015 14:21 |  #21

i just feel that the 7R-2 should offer a little better auto focus !other wize you just have a full frame point/shoot that cost 3K!maybe canon owns the auto focus market anyway !with its run away blistering AF speeds,and sony with its best full-frame censers.


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Nov 25, 2015 14:40 |  #22

blanex1 wrote in post #17796583 (external link)
i just feel that the 7R-2 should offer a little better auto focus !other wize you just have a full frame point/shoot that cost 3K!maybe canon owns the auto focus market anyway !with its run away blistering AF speeds,and sony with its best full-frame censers.

It's a matter of perspective. One could also say that for 6K in the 1Dx or close to 4k for the 5DSR, Canon should give us more than 12 stops of DR and better low light performance than the two of those camera offer.

Of course not everyone needs the DR or low light performance of the a7rII, but in that same light, not everyone needs 1DX level AF tracking.

Depends on what your priorities are. Most aren't buying the a7rII to shoot sports or wildlife. Most are buying it because they prioritize image quality, and with regards to current Canon users, it appeals to those who want to put their existing lenses in front of the best FF sensor in the industry. Horses for courses.


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Nov 25, 2015 17:22 |  #23

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..., Canon should give us more than 12 stops of DR and better low light performance than the two of those camera offer.

Of course not everyone needs the DR or low light performance of the a7rII, but in that same light...

The 5DsR is a fair point, but the nearly 4 year old 1DX is still on par with the A7Rii in high ISO performance until you hit ISO 51200.


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Nov 25, 2015 18:49 |  #24

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The 5DsR is a fair point, but the nearly 4 year old 1DX is still on par with the A7Rii in high ISO performance until you hit ISO 51200.
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Interesting that the 1DX's low light DR is so much better than the 5DIII and pretty close to the a7rII. It's likely a function of the 18mp sensor. Mind you the a7rII has more than 2x the resolution as the 1dx.

Huge DR disparity at low ISO.


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Anecdotally, the area in which the a7rII excels at high ISO is mostly a matter of color fidelity. Where most cameras fall apart at high ISO, the a7rII's colors still look very good at extremely high ISO


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Nov 25, 2015 19:58 |  #25

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Interesting that the 1DX's low light DR is so much better than the 5DIII and pretty close to the a7rII. It's likely a function of the 18mp sensor. Mind you the a7rII has more than 2x the resolution as the 1dx.

Huge DR disparity at low ISO.

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Anecdotally, the area in which the a7rII excels at high ISO is mostly a matter of color fidelity. Where most cameras fall apart at high ISO, the a7rII's colors still look very good at extremely high ISO

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I doubt the difference between the 1DX and 5D3 has much to do with 18MP vs 22MP, that's a fairly negligible difference and is very unlikely to account for the ~1 stop difference between the two at high ISO. It's more likely to do with the different amplifier design and/or something else with the circuitry.

Also, the color depth plot you're showing actually has little to do with color fidelity per se; you're thinking of color metamerism. The plot you're showing is essentially a measure of chroma noise correlation in the deep shadows (not actually just in the shadows but, like tonal range, that's where all of the differences between cameras tend to exist).


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Nov 26, 2015 04:42 |  #26

Something that I'm sure that has been addressed before but most people on this forum tend to be doing is critiquing the af system of Sony cameras using canon glass. So the comments are a bit unfair. Its like putting Sony glass on canon cameras and saying canons af system isn't very good


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Something that I'm sure that has been addressed before but most people on this forum tend to be doing is critiquing the af system of Sony cameras using canon glass. So the comments are a bit unfair. Its like putting Sony glass on canon cameras and saying canons af system isn't very good

To be fair this thread is specifically about Canon lenses on the a7rII, but yes with native lenses the a7rII's AF is very good. Just as good as my old 5DIII, but without the microfocus nightmares.


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raptor3x wrote in post #17796755 (external link)
The 5DsR is a fair point, but the nearly 4 year old 1DX is still on par with the A7Rii in high ISO performance until you hit ISO 51200.
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whats really interesting that Sony 42MP camera/sensor can best a 18mp professional camera.


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mystik610 wrote in post #17797619 (external link)
To be fair this thread is specifically about Canon lenses on the a7rII, but yes with native lenses the a7rII's AF is very good. Just as good as my old 5DIII, but without the microfocus nightmares.

even most Canon glass on Sony works as well as Canon glass on Canon body.

my a7RII is on its way :)


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Dec 03, 2015 21:53 |  #30

nekrosoft13 wrote in post #17806577 (external link)
even most Canon glass on Sony works as well as Canon glass on Canon body.

my a7RII is on its way :)

So long as you arent doing any subject tracking, where a canon body would work better. Congrats on the camera!


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