Is It time for upgrade?

Hello,

I own 60D with 18-55mm, 55-250mm and 50mm f1.8

I do stock photography and recently started studio photography, I finally got my studio going. I have some money and I am thinking about ff camera body and 6D is affordable for me but only body. I can keep using 60D for video and when fast AF is required and fast shutter, while I can use the 6D for low light conditions and everything else. I always use the center point for focus so I think the focus points aren't that much of a problem?

Is the change worth it? I have to mention I don't like shooting sports and stuff like that.

here is my portfolio
https://500px.com/devi​angel

add to that studio portraits and stock photos which are not in this portfolio. Will the 6D be good upgrade for me?

Thank you for your time.

The 6D would be an excellent upgrade for your type of shooting. But, the question you should be asking is, is the 6D the best investment for your photography business.

In the long run, I believe an investment in a wider assortment of fast primes would be the better investment. It looks like your 60D is doing what you need it to do. I don't see where you may need the better ISO of the 6D or would benefit (financially) that much from a full frame camera.

I concur. The 60D is a great frame. I'm not sure FF will give you that much of an advantage. Maybe consider a 10-22?

That being said I do love my 6D. It's a great body and for what you will be using it for I'm sure you'll love it. Just start saving some coin because the glass gets expensive.

The 6D is the logical upgrade from the 60D for your style of photography; however, it's biggest advantages are at higher iso's when you are shooting low light. Don't expect your shots in regular lighting to become dramatically better, but full frame will open some doors for you.

Also - I don't know what your budget is - but keep in mind that the EF-S lenses you have are only designed for crop, so the 18-55 and 55-250 will not work with a full frame camera. You'll have to open your checkbook up a bit more to add a few more full frame lenses to your collection.

To echo what the others have said - look into a few nicer prime lenses. An 85 or 100mm prime would probably be great for your style of photography. One of the Sigma Art lenses, or possibly a Canon L if the budget supports it.

Heya,

I'll be the nay sayer I guess, and say that it's probably not worth it for you at this time. It's not going to be much different in studio settings, with controlled light and a stopped down aperture lens. Most things will perform very similar and quite well in that kind of condition (a studio setting, with controlled environment). Moving to a 6D only offers you better high ISO advantage, and a slight increase in image quality and dynamic range, but you don't need that in studio application.

The other problem is that you go down to just one usable lens, that 50mm F1.8. Your 18-55 & 55-250 will not fetch much of any kind of resale value either, literally not worth selling, would be ideal just to keep with your 60D. This means you have to spend more to get full frame version lenses if you want to have a focal range back. There are relatively inexpensive zooms that are equivalents to what you have now, but they're not superb. There are some third party zooms that would be a nice change for you though. Note, that 250mm on APS-C is equivalent to a 400mm lens field of view on a full frame sensor. To get that reach back, you'd have to get a 400mm lens. Lenses is where full frame really starts to get expensive and that's a big consideration. There's not much point to getting a higher quality camera (even if it's only a little higher) and then slapping low quality glass on the front of it. Full frame isn't a magic bullet.

Examples (used) of prices of some mid-range equipment that would be good quality:

Tamron 28-75 F2.8 ($250ish)
Canon EF 24-105 F4L ($450ish)

One of those would cover you for a wide to mid-range zoom.

To replace your 55-250 on a full frame, would require, again, a 400mm. So you're looking at a used 100-400L at around $800 best price used.

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My suggestion is to consider swapping out glass before you change cameras just yet. Once you have lenses that you enjoy that can migrate to a full frame, then maybe take that plunge. Just a thought!

Very best,

I also shoot weddings. I intend to keep the 60D as I always need another camera as a support or to shoot a video even thou everyone I know is telling me to sell the 60D and buy brand new 6D body ( as here they are like 1500e just the body and I have 900e and that's how much they are on ebay or aliexpres).

I want a full frame camera because of the noise levels as I often shoot in low light conditions and you know how the stock agencies refuse because of that. Also it's my dream to own one, I am torn between 6D and 5D mark II but I know that 6D is newer.

Shame I don't have enough for 5D Mark III but as I avoid to shoot sports ( I'll have the 60D for that) I think I'll be alright. The difference won't be noticable in the pictures between the two of them (6D vs 5D MIII).

The other problem is I want to keep the 60D so I can use it to get more and more money to buy new glasses for the 6D as there's no point of having a body without glasses right. Having 6D with only 50mm f1.8 is like shooting in the leg.

I want to buy used body with 50-55.000 shutter count max.

Shame I live in Macedonia I guess good deals are far far away from me

Just keep your eyes open for some good deals. A new body or new glass, both will help you in your photography.however I will still recommend buying better glass first. I went with glass first and then upgraded from a 50d to a 6d. Each upgrade gave me more options to work with.

But this is why I will recommend buying glass first unless you find a spectacular deal with a ff body.

1. Primes such as an 85mm or 135mm go great with crops for some awesome portrait pics and can be had fairly cheap. Once you move to full frame they will continue to work great. Of course other options are available but a few portrait primes will get you some unique pictures

2. The 6d is starting to get old. Its a great camera but your 60d isn't bad either. So I would wait (unless you find an awesome deal) and see if a 6d2 might hit the market. If it does the 6d will drop in price and you get a great camera for less. Not to mention either way, if you buy now or later, you still need to buy glass.

with the lenses you have - only the 50mm will work on a 6D
the 18-55 and 55-250 are EF-S lenses, and will only fit the 1.6x crop bodies like your 60D

the upgrade will cost 3x what you expect because you will need a 24-70 and 70-200 as well.

What about 5D mark II ? Is it a good camera?

Its cheaper but older and older sensor.

How does it fare against 6D I mean for noticable results to the naked eye.

I want good performance at high iso good sharpness and noise level low but between these two, I mean noticable results and difference not just on paper

if im not mistaken the 6d beats out the 5d2 and 5d3 in high iso. The 5d3 costs more because it has an awesome focus system great for fast moving objects. The 6d does fine with stills and non erratic moving objects.

The 5D2 is still an excellent camera.

6D you have a newer camera, newer technology, and there are no gains with the 5D2 except it is built stouter.

What is the 60D camera not able to do that you need? going to FF means you can do a shallower dof, but that is not always an advantage. I personally get very frustrated with my 5D2's AF, and slow sync speed.
JMHO, YMMV.

I found one used body with 5000 shutter count - He claims thou. Some advice on what to look out after or how to check it?

IMO, absolutely avoid the 5D2 if you can because 6D prices are similar. If they are $500 off, then consider it, otherwise the 6D's sensor is worth the price of admission IMO. A full stop better high ISO/color retention is amazing. Consider how much it costs for you to upgrade a single lens 1 stop..... No more banding...... those two features is worth the price difference between two cameras. The firmware is much better with the 6D, a useable autoiso system that the 5D2 was never good at. You can set minimum shutter speed. HDR, the 6D gives you more bracketing options, from 2 shot to 7 shot, comes in really handy, love the 2 shot HDR for it's simplicity. Wifi and GPS are bonuses. GPS, especially handy for travel. Loved knowing where I stood to achieve a shot, wish I had that feature again.

Avoid the 5D2, people selling those tend to want similar prices to the 6D, and it's just not worth it!

and for what you shoot, you owe it to yourself to upgrade.

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IMO, absolutely avoid the 5D2 if you can because 6D prices are similar. If they are $500 off, then consider it, otherwise the 6D's sensor is worth the price of admission IMO. A full stop better high ISO/color retention is amazing. Consider how much it costs for you to upgrade a single lens 1 stop..... No more banding...... those two features is worth the price difference between two cameras. The firmware is much better with the 6D, a useable autoiso system that the 5D2 was never good at. You can set minimum shutter speed. HDR, the 6D gives you more bracketing options, from 2 shot to 7 shot, comes in really handy, love the 2 shot HDR for it's simplicity. Wifi and GPS are bonuses. GPS, especially handy for travel. Loved knowing where I stood to achieve a shot, wish I had that feature again.

Avoid the 5D2, people selling those tend to want similar prices to the 6D, and it's just not worth it!

and for what you shoot, you owe it to yourself to upgrade.

Thank you!

My friend just bought Nikon D800 that DSLR seems like a beast O.o