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Dec 10, 2015 11:53 |  #1

Hi all. Looking for a prime to compliment my 24-105 kit lens. I have a little experience with using the 50mm 1.8 on an APS-C sensor and I was overall satisfied, but not sure how much that will change on my 6D. For the record, I do not get into all the technical specs generally, so any bit of extra info would help greatly.

I am looking to shoot landscapes primarily (fields in low-light sunset, mountains, highways), and have something that will excel at personal family portraits when the event calls for it. Having a little extra in my budget, I could shoot for a used 1.2L for the durability, but at that price point I just want to make sure I'm getting the most of my money and want to be 100% sure that I am picking the right tool for the job.




  
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Dec 10, 2015 12:18 |  #2

get a tripod and use your zoom. the 50mm prime buys you NOTHING for landscapes but a very restricted view. oh, and get a flash for family shots.


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Dec 10, 2015 12:31 |  #3

ed rader wrote in post #17814023 (external link)
get a tripod and use your zoom. the 50mm prime buys you NOTHING for landscapes but a very restricted view. oh, and get a flash for family shots.

TS is doubling the usage for portraits as well.

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Hi all. Looking for a prime to compliment my 24-105 kit lens. I have a little experience with using the 50mm 1.8 on an APS-C sensor and I was overall satisfied, but not sure how much that will change on my 6D. For the record, I do not get into all the technical specs generally, so any bit of extra info would help greatly.

I am looking to shoot landscapes primarily (fields in low-light sunset, mountains, highways), and have something that will excel at personal family portraits when the event calls for it. Having a little extra in my budget, I could shoot for a used 1.2L for the durability, but at that price point I just want to make sure I'm getting the most of my money and want to be 100% sure that I am picking the right tool for the job.

it changes substantially, get the 6D first to see how you feel about the 50 1.8 first. Generally speaking, for portraits, you want an 85, 100, 135mm. On a personal level, I'de shoot with a 24 + 50 + 100 before using a 24-105. I just love having fast lenses on me at all times. IQ differences arent too drastic stopped down, however fast lenses are great for family photos or hand held night shots.


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Dec 10, 2015 13:18 |  #4

ed rader wrote in post #17814023 (external link)
get a tripod and use your zoom. the 50mm prime buys you NOTHING for landscapes but a very restricted view. oh, and get a flash for family shots.

I use a 50mm Prime for landscape work, a 50mm ART, and it does buy me something a zoom doesn't buy me, image quality corner to corner, I used to use a 17-40, less flexible for sure, but no comparison IQ wise, and I go to take high quality pictures, not so so ones. The downside is I now have to lug a load of primes around, ( 24,50,100,135,200 ) but, I've got a converted off road pram which makes carrying them, and the tripod, and the camera, and the filters, and some food, and a drink etc a doddle..............


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Dec 10, 2015 13:56 |  #5

welshwizard1971 wrote in post #17814087 (external link)
and it does buy me something a zoom doesn't buy me, image quality corner to corner

That's the overall gist of what I have been reading as far as using primes vs. zoom, but I have also heard both sides. I ultimately want to get rid of the 24-105 and get a 24-70 as I think having the extra speed would be more beneficial in low-light situations while shooting handheld. So, looking at it from that perspective, would it be wise to hold off on the prime and give the 24-70 a chance on a tripod?




  
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Dec 10, 2015 14:01 |  #6

so you have the 6D already?

in typical POTN fashion, i sure would recommend a 35mm prime on FF and an 85 for portraits. but if you have the 6D and know 50 is what you want, go with the Sigma 50 A. I tried both the Sig 35 and 50 at the same time and ended up with the 35. Very happy.

are you shooting landscapes that are moving and need a fast shutter? Open up the 24-105 to f/8 or 11 on a tripod and it is pretty darn sharp corner to corner.


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Dec 10, 2015 15:01 |  #7

An the correct answer is, this is all a personal preference. There is no 'best'. Most will agree to use a 85mm for portrits and a WA for landscapes but that certainly is not a law.

The landscape below was shot with a 150-500mm zoom. If it were me and I had the coin I would get the ef 50mm f1.2L II. But I will warn you, it is not an easy lens to use. It has a learning curve. But there is nothing like f1.2.


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Dec 10, 2015 15:53 |  #8

Left Handed Brisket wrote in post #17814142 (external link)
so you have the 6D already?

in typical POTN fashion, i sure would recommend a 35mm prime on FF and an 85 for portraits. but if you have the 6D and know 50 is what you want, go with the Sigma 50 A. I tried both the Sig 35 and 50 at the same time and ended up with the 35. Very happy.

are you shooting landscapes that are moving and need a fast shutter? Open up the 24-105 to f/8 or 11 on a tripod and it is pretty darn sharp corner to corner.

Yes, I have the 6D. What exactly do you mean by saying a "35mm prime on FF and an 85 for portraits"? The 35 for landscapes and an 85 for portraits? Kinda confusing the way I'm reading it, lol.




  
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Dec 10, 2015 16:21 |  #9

I think you will find that a 50mm prime will be a bit long for some landscapes.. The canon 16-35 f4 is a great lens and more versatile than a zoom...worth considering unless you have your heart set on a prime..


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Dec 10, 2015 16:51 |  #10

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I think you will find that a 50mm prime will be a bit long for some landscapes..

And it would be quite short for many more.

I don't know how the myth that "landscape" photography requires ultra-wide lenses because all the experienced photographers I know will use virtually any focal length in their bag for different landscape shots. I know I do.


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Dec 10, 2015 17:03 as a reply to  @ SkipD's post |  #11

My post does say SOME landscapes...

I use whatever focal length is required, whether its involves a wide angle lens or a telephoto..
If the OP buys a 50mm prime for landscapes he will be very limited, I was merely trying to offer him some helpful advice..


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Dec 10, 2015 17:25 |  #12

I'll admit up front that I'm not a landscape shooter beyond shooting things that interest me when I see them. But I do have a 50L so I can make a couple comments there.

As for usage, I'd agree that to me most zooms would seem better for landscape work as you need so much range in focal lengths. But then, if you want to buy a lens for portraits and also use it for landscapes that makes more sense. Even so, the 24-70/2.8L does come to mind as something tangibly better than your 24-105 (mainly for less distortion and vignette on the wide end) while also being fast enough for most portrait work.

But if you want a 50, that works as well. So long as your portraits are not super tight head and shoulders or so, then it will be too short really.

As for the 50L, it is a lens with very good bokeh characteristics, fast and accurate AF performance, good color, and generally good sharpness across the frame. I guess the biggest thing about the lens that stands out to me for landscape work is that it handles flare exceptionally well. A lot of lenses, and wider lenses especially, are all kinds of bad when you put the sun in the frame. The 50L is about the best I've worked with in such situations. So there is that.

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Dec 11, 2015 08:43 |  #13

^ Nice pics!

I think I have it pretty narrowed down. Going by what you guys are saying in this thread, I don't think I necessarily need a prime for the projects I want to take on. I am stuck between the 24-70 2.8 II and the 16-35 2.8 II, even though I am about 87.384% sold on the 24-70 as it will also double as an excellent replacement for my 24-105. Might rent it for a few days to see how it fairs.

Will keep you posted!




  
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Dec 11, 2015 10:28 |  #14

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^ Nice pics!

I think I have it pretty narrowed down. Going by what you guys are saying in this thread, I don't think I necessarily need a prime for the projects I want to take on. I am stuck between the 24-70 2.8 II and the 16-35 2.8 II, even though I am about 87.384% sold on the 24-70 as it will also double as an excellent replacement for my 24-105. Might rent it for a few days to see how it fairs.

Will keep you posted!

If you decide on the 16-35, why not consider the f4 version... Normally you will be stopping down for landscapes anyway, it is cheaper and it is a nice sharp lens.. I have one and it is a fantastic lens..


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Dec 11, 2015 11:00 |  #15

For stated purposes, the 24-70II is a much better choice than any 16-35 options.

You will want longer than 35mm for the portraits for sure.

And I find that while I do use wide more than long for landscapes, 24mm is usually wide enough.

Basically, 35mm+ is more useful (even for landscapes) than <24mm in my opinion.


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