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Dec 11, 2015 22:07 |  #1

I am working on a set of 9 photos to fill a wall frame that holds nine 4x6 photos as a Christmas gift. One of the photos is this below image of the Grand Canyon. I have to crop the canvas in order to fit it into the 4x6 aspect ratio and would like to get some feedback on the composition of the various crops.

Which crop do you prefer and why? Do you think I should create a crop that's in between these crops? Thank you for your feedback!

Crop 1, maximum foreground:

IMAGE: http://chuck-d.net/images/potn/The%20Canyon%201%201280.jpg

Crop 2, centered crop:

IMAGE: http://chuck-d.net/images/potn/The%20Canyon%202%201280.jpg

Crop 3, maximum sky:

IMAGE: http://chuck-d.net/images/potn/The%20Canyon%203%201280.jpg

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Dec 11, 2015 22:11 |  #2

Definitely #1.


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Dec 12, 2015 07:38 |  #3

The rock on the right is a little too big to me in #1. I would go for #3. It's true that the horizon bisects the image, but the trees that frame it on the sides moderate that.


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Dec 12, 2015 09:05 |  #4

Nice shot. I don't say this often, but I would pump up the saturation of the canyon a little and/or increase the contrast.
The crops are OK IMO, except I'd like to see a little less of the framing trees.


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Dec 12, 2015 09:54 |  #5

I think the important thing is not to have a strong horizon line cut the image in half across the middle. I've also seen lots of skies before and they are rarely interesting anymore.


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Dec 12, 2015 11:26 |  #6

Did you visit the GC to see the sky and some trees? Crop in more and use dehaze in Lightroom CC if you have it


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Dec 12, 2015 12:49 |  #7

I don't like any of them, its hard to even see a difference. The framing of the canyon is a good idea, but I'd crop so the trees are on the very outside of the picture on both sides, giving more emphasis to the canyon.


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Dec 12, 2015 16:46 |  #8

#2 is my choice.


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Dec 13, 2015 18:02 |  #9

patrick j wrote in post #17816470 (external link)
I don't like any of them, its hard to even see a difference. The framing of the canyon is a good idea, but I'd crop so the trees are on the very outside of the picture on both sides, giving more emphasis to the canyon.

+1. This is more important than placement of the horizon


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Dec 13, 2015 18:27 |  #10

1, but with PhotosGuy's suggestions for processing and for cropping closer for less "frame".


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Dec 17, 2015 19:34 |  #11

#3 for sure... It gives me that feeling of actually standing there and looking out into the massive canyon. And the sky looks amazing.




  
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Dec 19, 2015 01:01 |  #12

I appreciate everyone's feedback. Thank you all for your input. My girlfriend got impatient with me constantly editing photos, so for her cousin's gift we printed number 1. But I am taking all the tips and pointers given in this thread and I am working on a edit for myself now. So even though the consequent changes didn't make into his print, I am working on making changes based on the advice you all have given me for my own print.

Moving forward with this image, I am experimenting with other crops that reduce the framing of the trees and emphasizes the canyon more, as that seems to be the number 1 piece of feedback. For the canyon's color I had put a warming filter on it (to adjust the color cast), using a layer mask to prevent it from affecting the sky or trees. I think I had used that same mask to increase the saturation, but based on feedback I may punch that up even more. I had used an inversion of that mask to put a cooling filter on the sky which increased the blue of the sky, but my girlfriend disliked the look of that. And I'll look at slight global contrast increase.

Quick question, this is at least the second time someone has suggested dehaze on one of my images. I don't have Lightroom, I am working with Photoshop Master Collection CS3, so I have PS CS3 and all the other products in the suite. Is there something I can do with these tools that approximates or replicates the dehaze functionality?

Thank you all again, I really appreciate the help.


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Dec 19, 2015 08:53 |  #13

Maybe this: https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=1119795

givtu wrote in post #13480113 (external link)
Assuming a high-res file to start, duplicate the layer in Photoshop, desaturate, then High Pass @ 50-70, set blending mode of the layer to soft light, adjust opacity.

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Dec 19, 2015 11:15 as a reply to  @ PhotosGuy's post |  #14

Awesome. Thank you very much PhotosGuy!


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