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Jan 10, 2016 13:21 |  #1

Been looking for a book on the 7D2 that will show me all the new stuff this camera has to offer and how and when to use the features. Searched Amazon and some other sites and I seem to get the same story on the reviews, "Didn't offer very much", "Very basic", etc. Does anyone know of a book that will go beyond the basics FOR THIS CAMERA?

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Jan 10, 2016 15:56 |  #2

marchboom wrote in post #17852631 (external link)
Been looking for a book on the 7D2 that will show me all the new stuff this camera has to offer and how and when to use the features. Searched Amazon and some other sites and I seem to get the same story on the reviews, "Didn't offer very much", "Very basic", etc. Does anyone know of a book that will go beyond the basics FOR THIS CAMERA?

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Yes, but you probably won't like it. There is always the 500 page user manual. It's not poorly written as manuals go,. The basic manual that comes with the camera is only 120 pages. The full manual can be downloaded.


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Jan 10, 2016 16:14 |  #3

For me, the "Go To" is always a David Busch book. Unfortunately, his publisher went out of business before publishing the volume and his new publisher (Rocky Nook) has not committed to the 7D2 project. Maybe some targeted emails might help- his books have always been a valuable resource for me.


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Jan 10, 2016 16:43 |  #4

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For me, the "Go To" is always a David Busch book. Unfortunately, his publisher went out of business before publishing the volume and his new publisher (Rocky Nook) has not committed to the 7D2 project. Maybe some targeted emails might help- his books have always been a valuable resource for me.

Me too.. I had an email conversation with David Busch a while back and his old publisher owns the material until March or April. For all practical purposes then, I wouldn't expect to see a book on the 7D2 until the summer.


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Jan 10, 2016 16:43 |  #5

I have only recently got my 7D2 but I am finding it fairly easy to set up. It does take some time and, more importantly use, to get your camera just right for you.
So far I have only once tried my 7D2 in flying subjects, Short Eared Owls, and the AF missed on about 10-12 shots out of around 200 so we are nearly there!
As to books, manuals etc I have only one recommendation - don't use them! I did try the manual back when I had my Canon 350D and it completely did my head in. Just get out and shoot, play with a setting or two, and shoot again - much quicker and easier in my opinion!
For reference I am using AF case 5 with back button focus (AF-On button), Servo focus for everything, manual mode with Auto ISO and exposure compensation activated by the SET button. It's all in the camera menu and quite easy to set up.


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Jan 10, 2016 18:48 |  #6

johnf3f wrote in post #17852918 (external link)
I have only recently got my 7D2 but I am finding it fairly easy to set up. It does take some time and, more importantly use, to get your camera just right for you.
So far I have only once tried my 7D2 in flying subjects, Short Eared Owls, and the AF missed on about 10-12 shots out of around 200 so we are nearly there!
As to books, manuals etc I have only one recommendation - don't use them! I did try the manual back when I had my Canon 350D and it completely did my head in. Just get out and shoot, play with a setting or two, and shoot again - much quicker and easier in my opinion!
For reference I am using AF case 5 with back button focus (AF-On button), Servo focus for everything, manual mode with Auto ISO and exposure compensation activated by the SET button. It's all in the camera menu and quite easy to set up.

Ten out of 200 means a 95% hit rate. It's not nearly there, it is there!! The reason for reading books and manuals is to learn the feature set and how to use it. That are many, many features that will simply be overlooked if you don't know they are there. Its unlikely you would just happen upon many of them.


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Jan 11, 2016 09:23 |  #7

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Ten out of 200 means a 95% hit rate. It's not nearly there, it is there!! The reason for reading books and manuals is to learn the feature set and how to use it. That are many, many features that will simply be overlooked if you don't know they are there. Its unlikely you would just happen upon many of them.

The targets (Owls) were pretty easy for the camera to track so 90+% is not quite as good as it sounds, though still very good. When I switched to my 1DX for about 100 frames (on the same lens Canon 800 F5.6 L IS) it didn't miss. Note I have not included user error in these numbers - they would look FAR less impressive if I did! Please note that I have found that turning IS off allows significantly better tracking - perhaps that is why the percentages look so good?
I don't expect the 7D2 to equal the 1DX but it is pleasingly close and this was it's first real test of it's tracking abilities in my hands. I consider this high praise given the price of the 7D2.
Perhaps I did overstate my dislike of manuals as I did have to refer to the manual when I got my 1DX. It spoke Chinese (I think?) so I had to find out where to change the language! After that all my settings were achieved by playing around in the Menu and some very good information gleaned from this forum. The 7d2, being very similar, was simply set up the same and seems to be off to a very good start.
We are all different but I find it easier to go and play rather than read about it - just me! Additionally if I have done it myself I find that I remember things much better.
Either way the OP has a great camera which I think they will be very pleased with!


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Jan 11, 2016 20:30 |  #8

I was thinking about a book too. Most seem to basic.


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Jan 11, 2016 23:30 |  #9

I find that's the problem with a lot of books. They never contain the info that one looks for.

This forum is a great repository of knowledge and knowledgeable people. I advise using the provided Canon manuals, playing with the camera, and asking here for help. The biggest thing being pointer two.

If you look at the camera and take away all the things you know how to use, then there shouldn't be too much that needs your consideration.


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Jan 11, 2016 23:48 |  #10

well, I found the ebook to be quite good... it's in the kindle format but one can read it on a computer as well: http://www.amazon.com/​gp/product/B00R58CF7G (external link)


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Jan 12, 2016 09:20 as a reply to  @ Phoenixkh's post |  #11

That is the only one I found worth considering :) I am going to pick it up. It' less than $10 too so if it does not work out, it's not a big loss.


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Jan 12, 2016 09:41 |  #12

Forget the books

Go to You tube. Find the guys that do this professionally and watch their videos. Much better source of information


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Jan 12, 2016 17:04 |  #13

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Forget the books

Go to You tube. Find the guys that do this professionally and watch their videos. Much better source of information

YouTube can be, and often is, a good resource. But a well written text book is a valuable addition and well worth having. A recent post from David Busch mentions he will try to self publish an e-book later this year for the 7D2.


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Jan 13, 2016 08:40 |  #14

Consider getting the John Gringo "7D II Quick Start Tutorial/Guide" His learning videos are exceptionally good.


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Jan 14, 2016 18:55 |  #15

This https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1448434
and this https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1447976 Lots of good info :)


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