X-pro2, x-e2s, x-70 specs confirmed

Thanks to Fuji Australia:

http://product.fujifil​m.com.au …cessories/x-pro2/overview

http://product.fujifil​m.com.au …ccessories/x-e2s/overview

http://product.fujifil​m.com.au …daccessories/x7​0/overview

Looks like only the pro2 got a new sensor- e2s is the same.

OK, So I have been using my XT-1 for almost a year now and hearing rumors about an XT-2. I love this camera - I could not possibly think of a way they could possibly improve on the XT-1 other than the memory card door.

Now seeing the specs for the Xpro 2 I believe I understand. GAS is popping up it's ugly head again!!

You must not use your X-T1 much ...

There are tons of ways to improve the X-T1. Better build quality would be one (peeling rubber, non-sealing accessory door, rubbing paint, loose tripod socket screws, loose lens mount, mushy buttons (solved)). There are many many ergonomic improvements that could be made. Like making the lock buttons switches instead of buttons, moving some of the fairly useless dials back to programmable buttons, implementing a better Auto ISO, making the grip a little deeper and the rear button layout closer to the more useful ones (see X-Pro1 and X-Pro2).

There are also a whole bunch of software bugs in the firmware that should, over time, be fixed. The menu layout is pretty bad, the camera should also have +/- 2 stops and at least 5 shots in exposure bracketing, better ISO performance and more control over noise reduction at high ISO (skin waxing), better auto ISO when using different focal lengths (shutter speed as a factor of focal length, not just a fixed number), multiple auto ISO settings, custom settings that can be named, more things being programmable via custom setting like face/eye detect, exposure mode, flash mode, ...

And that was just a quick run down of things that are not ergonomic, slow, or just plain bad in daily use. No long and hard thinking required. The X-T1 shows very well that Fuji had still a lot to learn when they brought this camera to the market.

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any chance you got a screen cap when it was up?

Fuji rumors has links to the cached pages on their site.

cug wrote in post #17857942
You must not use your X-T1 much ...

Just every week, I love my XT-1. The flaws you mention have really not bothered or affected me. But then again does provide room for improvement.

You forgot that the drive mode is easily changed when changing the shutter speeds. That is my main gripe because I will be doing the formal family shots and accidently shoot a burst of 8 photos not realizing it got bumped.

You mean when changing the ISO, right? I have locked the drive dial through the menu, I rarely ever use anything but single shot.

Regarding the possible improvements: there are many things that can be improved. I also really like my X-T1, but it just shows that Fuji didn't have that camera figured out at all when they released it. The X-Pro1 and especially now the X-Pro2 are, from a real world workflow perspective, so much better designed, it's frustrating. I just LOVE the huge EVF in the X-T1 and it works so much better when you wear glasses.

Overall, I hope they take A LOT of the ideas in the X-Pro2 and bring it over to the X-T line and drop some of the more stupid concepts there that get more in the way than anything else.

Again, I have tons of Fuji gear, it's nearly all I'm using these days, but I find the X-T1 a frustrating camera: so many good ideas, such a poor execution on many levels.

cug wrote in post #17857942
You must not use your X-T1 much ...

There are tons of ways to improve the X-T1. Better build quality would be one (peeling rubber, non-sealing accessory door, rubbing paint, loose tripod socket screws, loose lens mount, mushy buttons (solved)). There are many many ergonomic improvements that could be made. Like making the lock buttons switches instead of buttons, moving some of the fairly useless dials back to programmable buttons, implementing a better Auto ISO, making the grip a little deeper and the rear button layout closer to the more useful ones (see X-Pro1 and X-Pro2).

There are also a whole bunch of software bugs in the firmware that should, over time, be fixed. The menu layout is pretty bad, the camera should also have +/- 2 stops and at least 5 shots in exposure bracketing, better ISO performance and more control over noise reduction at high ISO (skin waxing), better auto ISO when using different focal lengths (shutter speed as a factor of focal length, not just a fixed number), multiple auto ISO settings, custom settings that can be named, more things being programmable via custom setting like face/eye detect, exposure mode, flash mode, ...

And that was just a quick run down of things that are not ergonomic, slow, or just plain bad in daily use. No long and hard thinking required. The X-T1 shows very well that Fuji had still a lot to learn when they brought this camera to the market.

Ugh. I was considering switching from my 6D, to the fuji x-t1 and this post has me second guessing my decision. Can everyone please expand on the points made by CUG?

I can do so myself. Just that there are tons of things where Fuji can improve the X-T1, it doesn't mean that it isn't a terrific camera today.

If I hear somebody say "I can't think of anything to improve tool XYZ" I can imagine that civilization would probably still live in a cave and be afraid of fire if it weren't for the people who can see beyond the here and now.

So, I've been using my X-T1 quite a bit for 16 months now and while there is a ton of possible improvement, I could say the same about a 6D or an A7R II for that matter. It's about what you are looking for, what your expectations are and what you really want to achieve with a switch.

So, why do you consider switching from a 6D which itself is a great camera? Maybe that'll help giving you information beyond the "rant what can be improved" or "day dreaming about the camera that can't be improved".

cug wrote in post #17909313
I can do so myself. Just that there are tons of things where Fuji can improve the X-T1, it doesn't mean that it isn't a terrific camera today.

If I hear somebody say "I can't think of anything to improve tool XYZ" I can imagine that civilization would probably still live in a cave and be afraid of fire if it weren't for the people who can see beyond the here and now.

So, I've been using my X-T1 quite a bit for 16 months now and while there is a ton of possible improvement, I could say the same about a 6D or an A7R II for that matter. It's about what you are looking for, what your expectations are and what you really want to achieve with a switch.

So, why do you consider switching from a 6D which itself is a great camera? Maybe that'll help giving you information beyond the "rant what can be improved" or "day dreaming about the camera that can't be improved".

Interesting thoughts. I find myself quite satisfied with the XT-1 so I don't see any need for improvement. I switched over from the 6D mentioned as I found that one bulky and cumbersome in size, I got really tired of lugging it and associated lenses around. With both I found them the be fine performance wise. Yes they could both use a faster AF system, maybe some higher resolution (24 megapixel sensor), but overall I am quite satisfied with both. I prefer the 6D for night and macro shooting and find I can carry everything I need with the XT-1 for any other style of shooting (Landscape, Outdoor, Street, etc.) all in one light easy to carry messenger bag.

Now the 6DII and XT-2 are rumored to be released soon and will likely have some great enhancements, but If the cost is high like the Xpro2 I will likely not bite. At this time, it is likely the cost of either will be higher than what it would take to motivate me to spend. I don't see any possible improvements that would justify the additional cost for me. Now new lenses may be another story, we all suffer from GAS whether we admit it or not

I traded in some glass and bought an X-70. I love it. It's small, focuses super fast and suits me just right.

I've been looking to add a Fuji camera for a while and I've yet to pull the trigger. I'm pretty set on the style of the XE-2 or X100T but now I'm even more undecided.