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Jan 18, 2016 11:48 |  #1

During my visit to Southern Utah last December I took these 2 pictures.
I like them quite a bit myself, mainly because of the light on the distant mountains.
But I'm sure that I could have done better on composition and would appreciate any feedback on how to improve these images.

Thanks,

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Jan 18, 2016 11:52 |  #2

I think this is a good, creative use of the foreground to really express the openness/expansiveness of the landscape in that area; that works explicitly 'because' of your capture of the mountains being lit in the background. Nice shots.


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Jan 20, 2016 08:16 |  #3

It is great light. Personally I feel there is too much foreground and sky. The main element (the mountain ranges) is too distant, and right in the center. If you have enough pixels, a panoramic style crop may bring it more into prominence. Something similar to below:

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Jan 20, 2016 16:37 as a reply to  @ paul3221's post |  #4

Hi Paul,

Thanks for the insight.
I tried cropping myself too and although I like the result I still feel that the original represents the actual situation better.
Looking at the original I can see myself standing there again but perhaps that's because I was there and everybody else looks at it with different expectations?

Either way, I now have 2 very nice images, each showing a different view of an amazing area.

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Jan 21, 2016 17:22 as a reply to  @ Gruntenstein's post |  #5

The higher up you shoot from the more foreground you are going to get in the picture. In this case it isn't very interesting. If you would have shot from a lower angle and with a long lens you might have added more interest and still gotten the great light on the mountains.
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Jan 21, 2016 17:33 |  #6

Gruntenstein wrote in post #17862920 (external link)
During my visit to Southern Utah last December I took these 2 pictures.
I like them quite a bit myself, mainly because of the light on the distant mountains.
But I'm sure that I could have done better on composition and would appreciate any feedback on how to improve these images.

Thanks,

Hans.

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Jan 22, 2016 19:40 |  #7

I like the light in the second image. These are such vast, open areas that it is hard o frame exactly as we want, depending on available lenses. I do like the panoramic suggestion as well.




  
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Jan 23, 2016 05:06 |  #8

I would usually agree with cropping to a panorama format, but there is something lost in the expansiveness of the scenery when doing that here. As someone who has always lived in heavily forested areas, I appreciate a big view of the Earth's surface from time to time. I like the images as is, especially #1. Good work! Keep it up!




  
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Jan 24, 2016 20:24 |  #9

Thanks all, I appreciate the feedback.

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Jan 25, 2016 13:29 |  #10

i really enjoy them as is - the lighting is great and the setup beautiful, composition is great

hand held? was this 300mm?

curious...did you up the clarity on these?


Only wish the first was even sharper in the distance. You could make a nice series of this composition setup.


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Jan 25, 2016 17:43 as a reply to  @ EKOEPP's post |  #11

Thanks EKOEPP,

both were handheld.
1st one was with my Canon EF-S 15-85mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM at 85mm
2nd one was with my Sigma 17-50mm f/2.8 EX DC OS HSM at 39mm

I did some post processing in Lightroom but I'm not an expert user so... my results may vary :-), although I do see a positive difference between the out of camera raw and my end result in lightroom.
If I remember correctly I upped the clarity to +30 and vibrance to +25 on both.

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Jan 26, 2016 10:03 |  #12

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Thanks EKOEPP,

both were handheld.
1st one was with my Canon EF-S 15-85mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM at 85mm
2nd one was with my Sigma 17-50mm f/2.8 EX DC OS HSM at 39mm

I did some post processing in Lightroom but I'm not an expert user so... my results may vary :-), although I do see a positive difference between the out of camera raw and my end result in lightroom.
If I remember correctly I upped the clarity to +30 and vibrance to +25 on both.

Hans.

oooh tripod

Here ares some ideas for parameters to mess with in Lightroom:

clarity with a brush only on the distant horizon landscape if it all /foreground too- but to keep it off the sky
or keep clarity similar but balance out with color and luminance noise reduction - idea being to further sharpen the distance as the focus and take the clarity noise out of sky

also

could you add sharpening or did you already? maybe +75 and balance with option+masking to see what you're sharpening?

just some others angle to play with it :0)


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Jan 26, 2016 14:13 as a reply to  @ EKOEPP's post |  #13

Hahaha, we were driving and we were already far behind schedule when I took these.
Didn't get enough time to setup. Also the light was quickly changing and I didn't want to miss the moment.
But yes, with a tripod (and a bit more time) the result might have been better.

I'll play around with your suggestions to see if I can improve the quality of these images.

Thanks,

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Jan 27, 2016 09:38 |  #14

Gruntenstein wrote in post #17873866 (external link)
Hahaha, we were driving and we were already far behind schedule when I took these.
Didn't get enough time to setup. Also the light was quickly changing and I didn't want to miss the moment.

Hans.

I know isn't that always the case! You got it though - the light is perfect


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