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First attempt at strobing my car

 
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Jan 18, 2016 17:40 |  #1

So I was browsing the forum a few days ago and was intrigued by the automotive strobist thread and figured I'd give it a try. I noticed that in a majority of the photos it looked like the photographers either aimed the strobe at the ground in front of the car or above the car.

Anyways, below is my first attempt. The images were made from a composite of 3 images since I only have 1 strobe. I was shooting at 85mm & f2.8, which I think may have been a bit shallow as the very front and very back of the car appear to be out of focus. I was hoping to get the background to blur a bit, but it didn't blur as much as I was hoping. What do you guys typically start at for aperture? I guess I should also point out that no, I didn't wash my car beforehand.

I'm not sure I like the roof of the car in the second photo being co-linear with the horizon, but I couldn't get any lower. I guess I could have put the roof a little below the horizon, but for some reason that seemed odd to me. Thoughts?

Please let me know what I could do better next time.

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Jan 18, 2016 17:49 |  #2

Youve got obvious hot spots. If you are going to composite you need to work on evening out the light. Plus the lights appear to be coming from conflicting angles, from both the front and back of the car, which might be okay if the car were lit totally but the the hotspots make it appear as if a couple of different spotligths were hitting the cqr from odd directions.




  
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Jan 19, 2016 01:38 |  #3

I'd recommend starting strobing at night so you can get a better understanding of where the light is going, and how it looks from different angles.

Removing hotspots can be done by either taking more shots, or moving the strobe further away and reducing the strobe 'zoom' if it's a speedlight.


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Jan 19, 2016 05:22 |  #4

gonzogolf wrote in post #17863502 (external link)
Youve got obvious hot spots. If you are going to composite you need to work on evening out the light. Plus the lights appear to be coming from conflicting angles, from both the front and back of the car, which might be okay if the car were lit totally but the the hotspots make it appear as if a couple of different spotlights were hitting the car from odd directions.

Thank you. I didn't notice that before, but now it's driving me crazy. It seems like I can somewhat smooth the light by doing some dodging and burning in PS, but that seems like way more effort than just try to get the lights positioned better.

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I'd recommend starting strobing at night so you can get a better understanding of where the light is going, and how it looks from different angles.

Removing hotspots can be done by either taking more shots, or moving the strobe further away and reducing the strobe 'zoom' if it's a speedlight.

Thanks, after gonzogolf posted last night I thought I would try moving the lights further away on my next attempt. Good to know I was thinking along the right lines. I've got one B1600. I was using the strobe without a modifier as that's what seems most common on the setup thread. Would you recommend using a modifier to soften the light a bit?


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Jan 19, 2016 07:01 |  #5

I recommend you start by washing your car.


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Jan 19, 2016 09:17 |  #6

Keep in mind that strobing a silver car is a lot easier than strobing a black car. Which is why I prefer to use "late light" instead of flash.


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Jan 19, 2016 18:02 as a reply to  @ s1a1om's post |  #7

With metallic you'll probably need to hit the floor and bounce the light up into the car as it will cause hotspots if you direct the light at the paintwork. Have a look at the Strobist Setup thread, and find some examples of how others have lit a metallic colour similar to yours. Most are shooting from high and angling the light down onto the floor as I mentioned.


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Jan 19, 2016 18:10 |  #8

Beautiful car


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Jan 24, 2016 13:59 as a reply to  @ PhotosGuy's post |  #9

It isn't only a lot easier, but it is also "impossible" to strobe a black car. Only thing you can strobe with a black car are the surfaces that are reflected in the paint. You can jack the power output on your strobe facing a black car and it will look the same as no strobe. Only the non-black surfaces will illuminate.

But with that said, there's good input here. Hot spots. You can do a lot by moving the light around and aiming it a bit better, however, without a continuous light (like in light painting) the strobe will always cause a certain degree of hotspots that will need to be tended to in post to smooth everything out. The suggestion to start at night is a good one. It will help you understand the positioning of the strobe and how it affects the outcome. 1 strobe is plenty to light a car, it will just end up being a composite image. If you want to be able to shoot a single image with everything strobed correctly you wont have the room in your trunk to carry all the equipment :)

With respect to the F-stop. 2.8 is too low for just about any car shot where you see the entire vehicle. Nor is it really needed.. Sure the nice smooth, bokehlicious backgrounds are great, but not if you car is not in focus at either point. Unless im shooting from a side profile I will typically shoot no less than 4-5.6, but more around 6.3-9, it helps bring all of the details of the car in focus.

One more tip, you have a B1600, more than enough to put out some good amount of light, if you went up in shutterspeed to your max (1/200 or 1/250), lowered you iso to the min, and kicked up your f-stop it would have allowed you to kill off some of the ambient light. You then could have compensated with the strobe output and fired it a bit hotter. The result would have been a much less exposed background (to kill all the unnecessary busy detail) and a more contrasted subject, that a long with a bit of a warming filter in post would have given you an awesome looking "strobed" image. Silver cars are on the easier end to shoot, they aren't white so its kind of hard to blow-out all of the detail with overexposure, and if done right the metallic flake looks awesome with the strobe.


Remember this: With strobe photography one of the most important things to understand is the balance between ambient and artificial light. Getting the correct balance is what gives you the strobed "look" and undesrstanding how to achieve this balance with you camera settings will make it much easier to shoot.


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Jan 27, 2016 13:01 |  #10

Washing your car will help immensely, especially with a metallic finish like that. The dirt on the paint is interfering with the reflective properties of the paint itself...the light would be able to "spread" more if it was clean.




  
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Jan 28, 2016 18:50 |  #11

Thanks for the help everyone. I'll try washing my car before shooting it again. It will be the first time I've taken this car through a car wash. haha. I keep meaning to go back out and try shooting it again, but haven't been able to get my act together. It's dark when I get home from work and we've had precipitation on the weekends. :cry:

I did manage to get out at lunch today and over to a local airport. I found 2 nice clean planes and had some fun photographing them. I think I did a better job at evening out the lights and minimizing hot spots. You can see the results over here: https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1451565

I'll post in this thread again when I have another go at shooting my car.


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