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Jan 26, 2016 13:50 |  #46

Left Handed Brisket wrote in post #17873805 (external link)
interesting. Does it not provide any sort of automatic/ETTL for either brand?

No, strictly manual flash but you can change the power levels remotely and also have different groups.


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Jan 26, 2016 13:52 |  #47

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Correct... I am now trying to cancel the Canon flash and get the Falsh and tranciever you have just above.

Pause. Look at all the options, or you may continue this pattern and find yourself canceling an order for a YN-560 sometime in the next 12 hours. You don't know what you want, or realistically what you want to do with it. And there are many options. Phottix Mitros+ for example, which are really well made and can be fully controlled off-camera by their Odin transmitters from either Canon OR Sony (though each flash only fully supports one brand on-camera, true of all hot-shoe flashes), and integrate seemlessly with their larger flashes and strobes.


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Jan 26, 2016 13:55 |  #48

Left Handed Brisket wrote in post #17873796 (external link)
he STFB (sent the f@#er back).

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another guy who often doesn't RTFT before responding.

Yeah, I didn't RTFT, either!

My statements about Manual flash are UNIVERSAL truths. Regardless of brand. The only thing specific to a Sony flash is/was how the controls operate. So my prior statements apply to the Canon flash, too.


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Jan 26, 2016 13:58 |  #49

Bonecollector wrote in post #17873798 (external link)
Correct... I am now trying to cancel the Canon flash and get the Falsh and tranciever you have just above.

I will either keep the pocketwizards for later or try selling them.
Seth

THE Canon HOT FOOT IS DIFFERENT from Sony HOT FOOT...a remote trigger system hotshoe made to work for Sony will not also work with Canon flash, and vice versa!!!

  • At the minimum, a single trigger might work with Sony hotfoot-compatible receiver mounted with Sony flash, and also work with Canon hotfoot-compatible receiver mounted with Canon flash...but it WILL NOT be ETTL compatible, merely a Manual radio trigger!
  • Similarly, the radio transmitter MUST be compatible with Sony hotshoe, and a second transmiter MUST be compatible with Canon hotshoe.



What camera(s) do you wish to shoot with? and what flash(es) will you shoot with?

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Jan 26, 2016 14:01 |  #50

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Pause. Look at all the options, or you may continue this pattern and find yourself canceling an order for a YN-560 sometime in the next 12 hours. You don't know what you want, or realistically what you want to do with it. And there are many options. Phottix Mitros+ for example, which are really well made and can be fully controlled off-camera by their Odin transmitters from either Canon OR Sony (though each flash only fully supports one brand on-camera, true of all hot-shoe flashes), and integrate seemlessly with their larger flashes and strobes.

Yes, the Phottix Mitros+ with transmitter is a great combo but it costs about $550 and won't be fully functional with both his Sony and Canon cameras. The YN560 set I recommended is only about $110 and will do most of what he needs.

Actually he really doesn't know what he needs at this point so I think $110 is a good way to get his "feet wet" in off camera flash.

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Jan 26, 2016 14:05 |  #51

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Pause. Look at all the options, or you may continue this pattern and find yourself canceling an order for a YN-560 sometime in the next 12 hours.

bw!

i'll go back to my previous statement about getting a hold of some bad information out on the Wild Wild Web. Seth, this forum is the best place on the internet to find what fits you best, you just need to have some patience, and let the forum members know what you need/expect/want. Someone will have the right answer for you.


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Jan 26, 2016 14:10 |  #52

Wilt wrote in post #17873833 (external link)
THE Canon HOT FOOT IS DIFFERENT from Sony HOT FOOT...a remote trigger system hotshoe made to work for Sony will not also work with Canon flash, and vice versa!!!

i actually clicked on msowsun's link and read it (shock! :P ) and the combo he is talking about is based on the YN602/603/603II tech, so it is strictly center pin/fire only kind of deal. Should work with any modern brand of camera with a hotshoe.


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Jan 26, 2016 14:20 |  #53

Have any suggestions on flash accessories I should purchase?

I'm sticking with the YN560... I have flash gels and the flash comes with a diffuser... anything else for the beginning?

Thanks,
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Jan 26, 2016 14:22 |  #54

batteries, definitely batteries.


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Jan 26, 2016 14:24 as a reply to  @ Left Handed Brisket's post |  #55

Check... 12 rechargeable AA batteries


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Jan 26, 2016 14:25 |  #56

Where are you ordering from? A cheap flash stand and umbrella would be a great addition.

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Jan 26, 2016 14:26 |  #57

msowsun wrote in post #17873839 (external link)
Yes, the Phottix Mitros+ with transmitter is a great combo but it costs about $550 and won't be fully functional with both his Sony and Canon cameras.

It's admittedly confusing, but when Phottix labels their units as "for Canon" or "for Sony", what they mean is that those flashes or transmitters will be fully functional on the hot shoe of a camera with that brand. What I was trying to communicate was that off camera, the units speak "Odin" and can be controlled from an Odin transmitter on either brand of camera--with each camera needing an Odin transmitter with "for <that brand>" on it. In other words, you can buy transmitters for each camera brand ($168 each) and be able to fully control a Mitros+ unit off camera with TTL and HSS support regardless of what brand that Mitros+ is able to directly mount on.

It's a more expensive system than the Yongnuo, but it's also more fully featured, and it is less expensive than the 600ex-rt plus ST-E3-RT setup which would not support Sony. To the best of my knowledge, Yongnuo has no support for TTL or HSS when using Sony camera. They don't make a Sony version of their transmitters for either Sony/Minolta or the newer Sony multi-shoe mount. Any YN setup would be cheap, but it would be a dumb trigger system with the Sony body.


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Jan 26, 2016 14:27 as a reply to  @ msowsun's post |  #58

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Should I get a light meter?

Now i'll have a lot of extra $$$ to get a good light meter if I need one.


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Jan 26, 2016 14:29 |  #59

With any non-TTL flash work, attempts to shoot without a flashmeter do nothing except slow down the photographer and irritate waiting clients who are watching the amateurish trial and error antics of the photographer.


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Jan 26, 2016 14:31 |  #60

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Adorama


Should I get a light meter?

Now i'll have a lot of extra $$$ to get a good light meter if I need one.

sure, sekonic 478D

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