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Jan 31, 2016 04:54 |  #1

Just a wonderingment, is it safe to assume that the newer 6D body has about the same weather proofing as the old 1Dmk3? I'm basing this on whatever technological advancements that have been made over the last eight years or so. Thanks in advance




  
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Jan 31, 2016 05:10 |  #2

No.

Don't consider the 6D "weather sealed." It has some resistance, but it's not 1D level.

That said, to make sure a 1D3 is properly sealed, the gaskets sometimes need refreshing.

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Jan 31, 2016 16:17 |  #3

Not even close.


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Jan 31, 2016 16:38 |  #4

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Feb 09, 2016 17:06 |  #5

I just got a 6d refurb and I was also wondering about weather sealing, as I want to get one of the sigma 150-600mm telephotos. The S model is said to be built for extreme environments and very well weather sealed. No point spending the money for an extreme environment lens without a camera to match, unless there is some way the 6D can be protected which does not add weight and/or clumsiness. Thanks for any insights.


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Feb 09, 2016 17:20 |  #6

Tom Camilleri wrote in post #17892112 (external link)
I just got a 6d refurb and I was also wondering about weather sealing, as I want to get one of the sigma 150-600mm telephotos. The S model is said to be built for extreme environments and very well weather sealed. No point spending the money for an extreme environment lens without a camera to match, unless there is some way the 6D can be protected which does not add weight and/or clumsiness. Thanks for any insights.

The 6D is not weather sealed.

1D series are.

No point getting the Sport version of the 150-600 unless you're paring it with a legit weather sealed body.

That said, the 6D is not unprotected. It's just not rated to the standards a 1D is for weather resistance.

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Feb 10, 2016 03:35 |  #7

MalVeauX wrote in post #17892135 (external link)
The 6D is not weather sealed.

1D series are.

No point getting the Sport version of the 150-600 unless you're paring it with a legit weather sealed body.

That said, the 6D is not unprotected. It's just not rated to the standards a 1D is for weather resistance.

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I don't think "no point" is accurate.
Generally water ingress into a camera is minor. Capillary action means water will make it's way to various places but it's not like a storm drain in there. It's common when a non weather resistant component has water ingress, body or lens, that only one component
has water ingress and other component does not.

Both Sigma 150-600s have a weather resistant mount. That in itself provides some protection for both body and lens.

Assuming a water did make it into the lens, good chance it would not make it into the camera body. At least not immediately.
With a weather resistant lens, if the seals perform as hoped, it means water would have to make it's way from body into the lens for the weather resistant lens to be pointless.

The 6D does have numerous rubber gasket and seals. There are some diagrams somewhere showing them. It seems from user reports, the set button is a weak area where water has found a way in.

Having said all that, definitely not safe to assume 6D is as weather resistant as the 1D3. It's not a matter of technological advancements, it's about cost and how much effort Canon put into making the camera water resistant.


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Feb 10, 2016 03:53 |  #8

I can't find the diagram but here's what Canon says:

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The EOS 6D’s body construction is a combination of durable materials – a polycarbonate base plate to which the part-magnesium alloy body shell is attached. The camera also features a robust dust-proof and drip-proof construction, where body panels interlock rather than adjoin, and all seams, buttons and dials are provided with secure rubber sealing. The protection provided by the design and sealing is equivalent to that of the EOS-1N film camera; the weather-sealing standard by which other professional cameras were judged.

http://cpn.canon-europe.com …nside_the_canon​_eos_6d.do (external link)


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Feb 10, 2016 04:00 |  #9

Here ya go, diagram showing weather seals on 6D:

https://photography-on-the.net …read.php?t=1319​528&page=2

Mornnb wrote in post #16472588 (external link)
It's already fine. Had a few hours to dry.
Importantly the weather sealing kept water out of both LCDs, out of the mirror box and viewfinder. Which saves the camera. Seems the d-pad however lacks enough protection.

Looking at the diagram though, only the aperture wheel is protected. The d-pad lacks weather sealing. Which would explain what happened.

So boys and girls, the moral of the story is you can shoot the 6D in the rain, however expect the dpad to stop functioning properly when wet. And the 17-40mm lens I was using, had absolutely no issues with a UV filter on.

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Same with the 5D mark III.
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Feb 10, 2016 17:48 |  #10

Thanks Choderboy, I know now to pack the 6D away when it starts to precipitate ߘ




  
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Mar 01, 2016 08:12 as a reply to  @ MalVeauX's post |  #11

I've been away for a while on business.Thanks for reply. I thought this might be the case.


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Mar 01, 2016 08:28 |  #12

i have done three separate shoots in the "rain" with my 6D and had no problems.

each time i was outside all day and it was between 40 and 55 degrees F. It did not rain all day, and I was usually not fully exposed when it was raining, but there were definitely times when I walked away from my little sheltered area and got caught in a down pour. One day it was just misty so everything was covered with a little dampness all day long. On the worst days i made a simple cover for the camera and lens out of a trash bag and used gaff tape to attach it to my lens hood. After a few hours shooting the gaff tape was so wet it stopped sticking.

i wouldn't recommend giving the camera a true test of waterproofing, but I wouldn't be scared to shoot with it with a little preparation and caution. I also brought a few dry towels, and used them when the camera got too wet. Using a true rain cover I would shoot in pouring rain and not worry.

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Jun 06, 2016 19:08 as a reply to  @ Left Handed Brisket's post |  #13

Thanks for sharing. Will look in to rain cover.


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