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Oct 19, 2016 09:34 |  #46

Hmmmm. My experience with 3rd party batteries is limited but I just received 4 Wasabi batteries from Amazon. 2 were DOA. I hope this is an exceptional case.


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Oct 19, 2016 09:51 as a reply to  @ Trvlr323's post |  #47

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Oct 19, 2016 10:08 |  #48

nqjudo wrote in post #18161062 (external link)
Hmmmm. My experience with 3rd party batteries is limited but I just received 4 Wasabi batteries from Amazon. 2 were DOA. I hope this is an exceptional case.

Well, that is very annoying, and unlikely to happen with OEM batteries. However, it does seem exceptional.


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Oct 19, 2016 10:12 |  #49

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Well, that is very annoying, and unlikely to happen with OEM batteries. However, it does seem exceptional.

Yeah. Strange. My previous experience with 3rd party batteries is limited to Sterlingtek and a Chinese brand I can't identify. My only issue with those was I found the capacity overstated. 1st time using Wasabi. At least I'm dealing with Amazon so I'll get them replaced without issue.


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Oct 19, 2016 17:08 |  #50

the BP511 from sterling-tek.. not very good
the LP-E6 from sterling-tek.. pretty good

the LP-E6 from wasabi.. eh.. meh..

It may be battery type dependent, date dependent, batch dependent, who knows.

so far my 3rd parties are not quite as good as canon, but vary between 60% to 80% as good.
I've never had any malfunctions or issues other than how long they last.

JMHO, YMMV.


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Oct 20, 2016 01:51 |  #51

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I have not tried a 3rd party LP-E4/n yet, but I have to mention that right now the only batteries I own that are performing poorly, are both Canon branded LP-e4 and LP-E4n. One will no longer connect to or power the 1D4 at all, the other intermittently will give an ERROR 99. Replacing these with Canon branded batteries will cost close to $400.00. this is about 50% of the resale value of the 1D4 right now. Not a purchase I aim to take lightly. 3rd party will be less than $100.00

I believe all 3rd party LP-E4 batteries will work on the 1Dx but not show charge status in the camera (which they do in the earlier 1D series). With that one limitation, my Wasabi battery works great in my 1Dx. I generally bring it along to use in case a shoot goes excessively long, because I know it will last at least as long as the OEM under the same conditions- which gives me a rough estimate of how many shots. It fits well, too.

I have used nothing but STK and Wasabi on my 8 previous Canons, with superb results. Like you, the only batteries which have ever shown degradation are my OEM originals, which don't even get that much use. The price of one Canon-branded battery will buy a stack of STK units, allowing me to put fewer charging cycles on each and further extend their lifetime.


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Oct 20, 2016 18:52 |  #52

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Like you, the only batteries which have ever shown degradation are my OEM originals, which don't even get that much use. The price of one Canon-branded battery will buy a stack of STK units, allowing me to put fewer charging cycles on each and further extend their lifetime.

This has been the case with me, and I've used Sterlingtek since 2006, when OEM BP-511 were scarce as hens' teeth for my classic 5D. I still have a 5D, and those same batteries still work, while the OEM batteries bit the dust long ago.

I long had worries of STK batteries failing suddenly on me just before a job, so I always kept plenty of them...failure never happened though. After Canon introduced its mini battery tester in the 5DII, I no longer worried about sudden failures with the STK.

I'm using STK now in EP-6, have been for years.


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Jan 26, 2017 09:37 as a reply to  @ post 18158392 |  #53

This is not entirely true. I have two Canon LP-E4 batteries that i have have for years now. Both bought at the same time. One works just fine, the other, will work for awhile, drop to 50% after a short time and then start blinking and completely shut off not long after that.


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Jan 26, 2017 13:27 |  #54

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For Canon please give me a 3rd party company that gives identical performance and reliability?

If you miss a pivotal moment during a clients EVENT because you saved $40 on a 3rd party battery is wonderful LOL!!!!

If you missed your childs first step because a 3rd party battery died due to incorrect battery level (indicator) is worth saving some money right???

Joking and ribbing aside please tell me a 3rd party fuji battery that will perform identical to oem. There is nothing out there that is comparable to OEM.

My DSTE cheapy battery on my gh3 worked.......it was a spare but otherwise I would use OEM first and use 3rd party for last ditch efforts in keeping the camera going.

IF you do "PAY" you do get a reliable battery. Why do you think people use OEM as a benchmark/reference???​????? because it's a comparison of reliability and longevity. You understand maH is an absolute joke in the 3rd party world because we all know they typically do not last as long as an oem. If this case was the opposite I'd only buy 3rd party!!

Been there...done that.....

For my fuji gear if I use it in a more serious manner I'd throw away all of my 3rd party batteries and use only OEM.

I've never had issues with Wasabi or SterlingTek. The very very few times I did have issues, it was mainly that the camera could not communicate with the battery where it shows you battery life and shots. But the batteries still work once you escape out of the error message. The manufacturer sent out replacements without a problem and quickly too. I actually have better results with battery life with these two brands over OEM.

For your Fuji, Wasabi makes batteries for the X-T10 - https://www.amazon.com …466c16840d44893​3ccda3c279 (external link)


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Jan 26, 2017 13:46 |  #55

I have used 3rd party batteries in my Canon DSLRs over 75% of the time. In fact, I have purchased camera equipment from the revenue of selling Canon-branded batteries to those Canon battery zealots. :)

I have had good and bad Wasabi batteries, Sterlingtek has been good, and back when Phottix made batteries, theirs were identical to the Canon performance (LP-E4).

I have also had Canon batteries go bad, without any real warning.

I don't need batteries that equal Canon's, I just need them to be close, and all the 3rd party ones I have tried realized that goal. The fact that I save about 65-80% on those is the icing on the cake I am looking for. I have typically then sold Canon batteries on the boards and over the years, that revenue/savings combination bought my first 7D.


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Jan 26, 2017 14:48 |  #56

The one place that I have had problems with 3rd party batteries were both in the instance of 1D batteries.

(of course this is where I now have two useless OEM Canon batteries as well, so,..)

the old NP-E3 NIMH for the 1D-1D2 series had a tricky bit of latching mechanism that no one seemed willing to actually re-engineer. The cells were often better than those Canon was providing, but the mechanics could be so bad you did not get a weather seal, or even a good solid lock in place.

The easy solution was you replaced the end cap with the OEM one from your dead Canon, you get brand new higher rated NIMH, with genuine Canon cap, and end up with a better than OEM battery.

Today I can tell you the same issue is there for 1D3-1Dx2 LP-E4 batteries. Until this week, I never had reason to try 3rd party LP-E4, but as two of my genuine Canon batteries decided to give up the ghost, (in neither case did they gradually fade out) I bought some 3rd party.

As with the old NP-E3, the latching mechanism was the weak point,. These were particularly low cost batteries a pack f three for like $50.00.. "Kaster" I think they are called. I likely should have gone Wasabi, but for my first experiment with LP-e$ I figured why not.

Two functioned fine, one the latching mechanism failed to function. I swapped the end cap with one from a dead Canon, and it is so far so good.


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Jan 26, 2017 15:10 |  #57

To add, the LP-E17 that is used in the EOS M, T6i are probably the only battery I would buy OEM. Reason being is because they are chipped and none of the aftermarket batteries are chipped. So it won't show battery percentage which I think is crucial.


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Jan 26, 2017 15:28 |  #58

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To add, the LP-E17 that is used in the EOS M, T6i are probably the only battery I would buy OEM. Reason being is because they are chipped and none of the aftermarket batteries are chipped. So it won't show battery percentage which I think is crucial.

Give them time, the LP-E4s were the first to be chipped, then the LP-E6, etc. :) It is a cat and mouse game with Canon and the aftermarket.


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Jan 26, 2017 15:44 |  #59

nqjudo wrote in post #18161062 (external link)
Hmmmm. My experience with 3rd party batteries is limited but I just received 4 Wasabi batteries from Amazon. 2 were DOA. I hope this is an exceptional case.

This is one of the reasons I said in response #11 "Asssuming you live in the States, where the Wasabi and SterlingTek are both available direct from their importers, then take the advice already given and get one or the other. Wasabi tends to bundle two with a charger whereas SterlingTeck sells singles and bundles. I do suggest ordering direct from the importer so you acquire fresh stock."

As of a few years ago batteries by law cannot be shipped by air at more than a 50% charge state. If they sit on some shelf for 4 to 6 months they may not properly charge.




  
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Jan 26, 2017 15:46 |  #60

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18256155 (external link)
Give them time, the LP-E4s were the first to be chipped, then the LP-E6, etc. :) It is a cat and mouse game with Canon and the aftermarket.

True but the LP-E17's aren't new to the market. It's been out for awhile. There must be something that Canon did that aftermarket is not able to replicate or bypass.


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