Official specs: Canon EOS-1D X Mark II

OoF wrote in post #17987099
Just got mine delivered. Probably among the first few in India. Though I didn't get much time to test it tonight, I did fire few quick fire shots (of what I could find baring angry wife and screaming kid).

I do see myself using up to 25600 pretty frequently now. 51200 seems decent and usable after a bit of processing. I didn't test beyond that as of now. Tomorrow may be.

12800 / 25600 / 51200 jpgs (with default RAW -> JPG conversion. I guess noise reduction at 14 points). RAW files uploaded as well.

https://drive.google.c​om …lyVV8zdUxhbVU&u​sp=sharing

Add that new body to your gear list!

OoF wrote in post #17987642
ha ha.. thanks Bryan! I didn't realize I was the first one on POTN... however I indeed was pretty excited to share samples with the gang here

You should go post in here,
https://photography-on-the.net …showthread.php?​p=17987674

in the mean time, CWphoto stole your thunder.

Congrats on the new machine, and thanks for posting up samples!

wallstreetoneil wrote in post #17987807
really appreciate these - thanks

(a few of yours using the raws)

So far, what I see (not specifically with just these photos but everything so far), is that Canon has continued with what it started with the 5DSR, then the 80D and now a lower pixel density, large pixel camera that I think, while very good at high ISO, may actually shine the most at ISO 100 in a studio - with beautiful rich colours on human skin tones. I think the A7Rii may still have very slightly better colours and DR at low ISO but it is getting much much closer with this camera.

ISO 800

IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/FJZT​ds 1DX II ISO 800 by Paul O'Neil, on Flickr

ISO 800 (+3EV +100 shadows -90 highlights -50 blacks +10NR +10 masking )

IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/GfoM​uQ 1DX II ISO 800 by Paul O'Neil, on Flickr

ISO 800 (almost 1:1 crop)

IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/GwjC​2q 1DX II ISO 800 by Paul O'Neil, on Flickr

Aw... I see some horizontal banding. *kicking sand* (Won't stop me from getting the camera. )

wallstreetoneil wrote in post #17987807
really appreciate these - thanks

(a few of yours using the raws)

So far, what I see (not specifically with just these photos but everything so far), is that Canon has continued with what it started with the 5DSR, then the 80D and now a lower pixel density, large pixel camera that I think, while very good at high ISO, may actually shine the most at ISO 100 in a studio - with beautiful rich colours on human skin tones. I think the A7Rii may still have very slightly better colours and DR at low ISO but it is getting much much closer with this camera.

ISO 100

IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/GEwK​ta 1DX II ISO 100 by Paul O'Neil, on Flickr

ISO 100 (EV +1.45, Shadows +100, Highlights -86, Blacks -66 - plus pushed the blue channel to see if there was any blue left in the sky)

IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/GyFA​ni 1DX II ISO 100 by Paul O'Neil, on Flickr

ISO 800

IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/FJZT​ds 1DX II ISO 800 by Paul O'Neil, on Flickr

ISO 800 (+3EV +100 shadows -90 highlights -50 blacks +10NR +10 masking )

IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/GfoM​uQ 1DX II ISO 800 by Paul O'Neil, on Flickr

ISO 800 (almost 1:1 crop)
https://flic.kr/p/GwjC​2q1DX II ISO 800 by Paul O'Neil, on Flickr

That's pretty impressive. So, can one conclude that the shadow recovery gap to the Exmor sensor is subsantially narrowed if not eliminated?

digital paradise wrote in post #17987979
I see this cam has iTR. Not sure how many previous 1DX owners followed 7D2 forums but I did a summary on iTR and it should be close on the 1DX II.

iTR – Intelligent Tracking and Recognition which executes AF by recognizing faces and colors.

In AI Servo mode, the camera remembers the color at the position it is focused on first, then continues to track and focus the subject switching AF points to track that color. It is an assist to the normal AF tracking system. If it can’t find a colour it will track the normal way but will slow things down as the system uses resources looking for a colour. A person in a brown track suit with a brown hat running in front of bushes in late fall is not so good.

In one-shot AF mode iTR basically looks for faces. The manual states that when activated it will take longer to acquire focus which makes sense. I’m not sure if a person could even tell as AF happens in milliseconds. It also states that if a face is too small in the frame it may have trouble finding it.

On the 7D2 iTR never activates in spot, single or expansion mores. If iTR is enabled (camera menus) it will activate in all zone AF modes only. So you may want to keep this in mind because if it is enabled and you go from expansion to zone AF tracking characteristics will change. It is enabled from the factory on the 7D2.

I turned mine off long ago but plan to try it this summer. There were a few known birders who tested it and said it worked good in AI Servo. Art Morris was one.

Of course there may be some differences on the 1DX II. Just thought a heads up might be helpful.

The 1DX had iTR too...

H have u lot seen the canon 80d's DR?

its on par with the sony!!

edit: and so is this camera!

wtf. i dont wanna buy this!

Stop posting else i may throw my sony in the bin(na never!!! thats my baby camera!)

But i could replace my 5d3 with this!

Scrumhalf wrote in post #17988152
That's pretty impressive. So, can one conclude that the shadow recovery gap to the Exmor sensor is subsantially narrowed if not eliminated?

This is an interesting question, and I think the video linked before from Michael Tapes does a fantastic job at showing the different approaches of the Nikon vs Canon vs Sony sensor sensor - especially how the 1Dx sensor acts much, much better at the highest ISOs - one can probably conclude that the new 1DX II sensor has taken it even further - and hopefully closed the gap materially in the lower ISOs where the Sony Nikon Sensor was and is materially better

The video (very worth watching)
https://youtu.be/zSzTU​PJiPJc

A screenshot from that video comparing finally where the 1Dx passes all the other sensors - ie 6400 ISO and pushed 5 stops - almost everywhere else the other Sony / Nikon sensor is better that the 1Dx sensor - the question is, how much better is the new sensor.

IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/GFjf​4r

docholliday_sc001 wrote in post #17988343
The 1DX had iTR too...

I didn't know that. Thanks

digital paradise wrote in post #17988404
I didn't know that. Thanks

I have the 1DX manual and can't find it. It is under I in the 7D2 manual index. It must be called something else or under another heading. I mentioned it because it was a feature listed at Canon USA's site.

1Dx has iTR,
http://www.learn.usa.c​anon.com …ation.shtml?cat​egoryId=12

the whole article is good, but the iTR part starts on page two.

iTR and iSA are two of the things that separated the 1Dx AF system from the 5D3.

I think what makes the iTR in the 1Dx2 "new" is the tripling of "pixel metering sensors" and the algorithms behind it.

digital paradise wrote in post #17988412
I have the 1DX manual and can't find it. It is under I in the 7D2 manual index. It must be called something else or under another heading. I mentioned it because it was a feature listed at Canon USA's site.

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The "new" of that listing isn't the iTR, it's the 360K metering sensor bit...

The info is under the AF4 menu, Auto AF point selection: EOS iTR AF. It's pretty much the same info you posted about the 7D2, but it actually was introduced for the 1DX (with 100K metering) before the 7D2 (with 150K metering).

Thanks everyone. I have the 1DX manual but not the camera itself

Actually guys, there's another part of the tracking system that's new and that is the 1D X Mark II now leverages the highly refined gyro in the lens' IS system to detect which way you are moving the camera and then applies that information to the equation as well. Supposedly, this makes a big difference too.

Cheers,
Bryan

Damn, all of this high ISO talk and tracking talk just makes me want to go on safari with the 1Dx MkII but I know that if I make this purchase my better half will severely injure me. Maybe I should upgrade my medical plan as well as place an order for this thing.

bps wrote in post #17988532
Actually guys, there's another part of the tracking system that's new and that is the 1D X Mark II now leverages the highly refined gyro in the lens' IS system to detect which way you are moving the camera and then applies that information to the equation as well. Supposedly, this makes a big difference too.

Cheers,
Bryan

Thanks. Now I have to get it because of the gyro.