Official specs: Canon EOS-1D X Mark II

Left Handed Brisket wrote in post #17909572
hmm, my first impression is that the person speaking is talking at a low volume and the audio gain is cranked up on the video camera. If that's the case it probably isn't the best representation of the shutter sound.

if you go back to some of the early videos where they are only demonstrating the full speed FPS the sound didn't seem so loud.

Oh hmm, good point. Maybe not a deal breaker after all.

idkdc wrote in post #17909563
Yes, but the guests aren't getting paid x grand

That's what I mean. Couples pay x grand for their memorable photos, not necessarily to have those photos be silently taken.

Whereas terribly pixelated cellphone photos are endless snapped and beeping along the way. There's going to be noise anyway, might as well be from the paid photog snapping away memorable photos. (I wouldn't fire off 14fps.) Then again, perhaps there's a market to make a "silencer" cover for DSLRs to help muffle the shutter sound.

Silent shooting is just classier, especially in a quiet church. That said, I still have some 1DXii Gas. Hopefully the shutter is quiet enough irl to give me an excuse to purchase.

The 5D III has a quieter silent shutter than 1DX...wonder if that will continue to be the case for 1DX II and 5D IV?

I hope so on the 1DX II. I'm taking for granted that the 5DIV will have a quieter shutter.

Multiple people that have played with the 1DXII in person have stated that the 1DXII sits between the 5D3 and 1DX.

TeamSpeed wrote in post #17909665
Multiple people that have played with the 1DXII in person have stated that the 1DXII sits between the 5D3 and 1DX.

Sitting in between is on the verge of still being inappropriate during a quiet wedding ceremony. The 1Dx is ridiculous in that environment - like a machine gun firing off rounds in a library ridiculous. I might be overly sensitive to it, but I worked a wedding with another pro and he was dropping the hammer with a 16-35 F2.8 right in their faces, I could sense the coming disaster so I became silent shooting the 70-200 from the rear on my 5D3 and then the officiant exploded at him during the service.

You can't judge anything until you hear or see it in person so I will be withholding my final judgement (I do have a camera on order). The only test I will be doing when I go to pick up the camera is quiet mode and letting it rip - if it is too loud it won't be coming home with me.

I have actually gone in the other direction and almost exclusively try and shoot in silent mode, during the ceremony, with a Canon 24-70 F2.8 II on the Sony A7Rii. After that I'm back to the Canons. I will then put a 35 or 85 prime on the Sony and use it when required without a flash for thin DoF type shots @ F1.2 - F2.

So I wonder if the 5D IV will be all that more silent.

That's funny and good for you to realize what was going to happen and distance yourself from that.

umphotography wrote in post #17909432
Jake

I have never heard of using an extension tube on a 500F/4 v/s a TC. She said she doesnt use TC's only extension tubes

Whats the advantage/disadvantage

Met her at Yellowstone and we were pointing at the same grizzly

With the 500mm f/4L IS the minimum focus distance (MFD) is 177" ( a little under 15 feet)
What this means is if a subject gets closer to you, say 12 feet, you can't get a shot, The subject is out of focus.

If your subject happens to be a tiny little bird like a wren or a hummer, then even at the very closest you can get focus, 15 feet, the subject is very small in your frame, very few pixels on target. Adding a T-Con helps when the bird remains outside your MFD, but again if you can fill the frame by getting closer you have no shot as it's all a blur.

Extension tubes allow you to reduce MFD, and this allows you to fill the frame with a smaller subject, and at NO impact to optical quality.

I keep a pair of tubes with me at all times when I bring the 500mm out, for this very reason. If I am lucky enough to get THAT close to a smaller attractive subject, I do not want to miss the shot

This is the primary reason to use a tube. Using them to fit T-Cons together is more of a hack.

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #17909857
With the 500mm f/4L IS the minimum focus distance (MFD) is 177" ( a little under 15 feet)
What this means is if a subject gets closer to you, say 12 feet, you can get a shot, The subject is out of focus.

If you subject happens to be a tiny little bird like a wren or a hummer, then even at the very closest you can get an focus, 15 feet, the subject is very small in your frame, very few pixels on target. adding a T-Con helps when the bird remains outside your MFD, but again if you can fill the frame by getting closer you have no shot as it's all a blur.

Extension tubes allow you to reduce MFD, and this allow you to fill the frame with a smaller subject, and at NO impact to optical quality.

I keep a pair of tubes with me at all times when I bring the 500mm out, for this very reason. If I am lucky enough to get THAT close to a smaller attractive subject, I do not want to miss the shot

This is the primary reason to use a tube. Using them to fit T-Cons together is more of a hack.

Hmm.. interesting, I also never tried this before, any loss in IQ and AF using the Ext. tube?

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #17909857
With the 500mm f/4L IS the minimum focus distance (MFD) is 177" ( a little under 15 feet)
What this means is if a subject gets closer to you, say 12 feet, you can get a shot, The subject is out of focus.

If you subject happens to be a tiny little bird like a wren or a hummer, then even at the very closest you can get an focus, 15 feet, the subject is very small in your frame, very few pixels on target. adding a T-Con helps when the bird remains outside your MFD, but again if you can fill the frame by getting closer you have no shot as it's all a blur.

Extension tubes allow you to reduce MFD, and this allow you to fill the frame with a smaller subject, and at NO impact to optical quality.

I keep a pair of tubes with me at all times when I bring the 500mm out, for this very reason. If I am lucky enough to get THAT close to a smaller attractive subject, I do not want to miss the shot

This is the primary reason to use a tube. Using them to fit T-Cons together is more of a hack.

Thanks Jake. Appreciate that explanation. Now I get it. So to get further out your still going to need a TC. Guess i misunderstood her. makes sense.

To be perfectly Honest, another big reason for me and this new 1Dx2 is the 500F/4. Great lens but its just too big a burden to me to carry this thing around and set up. I got a 300 F/2.8. I prefer to shoot wildlife when im out and moving and hiking. Im not the guy thats going to be on a bank with a monster lens shooting eagles off shore. I would rather figure out a way to get on them. I wear camouflage clothing and try to work my way in.

Im actually going to get a Sigma 150-600 sport at some point. Ive used it and its a killer lens. With what I see with these new sensors, I think F/5.6-6.3 is not problem at all. And this new lens will take a TC easily. Hoping it still works with the TC with F/8 points but if not, tape will. 600mm is king of the hill. F/8.o on this lens is super sharp and with clean Iso your gonna be in great shape. 600 and a 1.4 TC is 840 in good light. Much better than a 400 prime at 560.

Its just a whole new ballgame. What im really excited about is F/4 on my 300L....thats 420 and the AF doesnt slow and the shots still look great. We are going to be able to be shooting when they are most active which is after the sun sets. How many times have you had to stop because you didnt have enough light for shutter speed ? A bunch is my guess.

It was a real push this winter in WA for eagles. Mid day, I was at F/3.2-3.5 trying to pan and keep my shutter at 1/640-800 and I still hit 6400 on auto Iso with -1/3 comp...so its darks here. This new sensor gives me much more options.

So to me 600MM and 420 mm and being being able to get closer is a much better option than dragging that darn 500 all over the place. The sigma 150-600 is a kick butt lens.

Whoo video about video: https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=JPI_n7FweNg

Doesn't sound that quiet unless the microphone had autogain on or something: https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=kHK3Ko4EVGI

idkdc wrote in post #17909980
autogain

probably,seems like the background noise fades back in after the shutter stops.