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Feb 11, 2016 14:51 |  #1

Hey everyone, so today I just noticed something pretty funky with my 5D. I've had this camera for two years and never once had a problem.

If you look at the metadata, it seems like something is wrong with the shutter. As the speed increases the bigger the black area is. The last img is pure white to show the black area.

Does anyone have an idea of what is happening here?

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Feb 11, 2016 15:03 |  #2

Does it happen with all lenses, or just with the 100mm?


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Feb 11, 2016 15:08 |  #3

Shutter failure.

Contact Canon service!

You may check this out:

Use mirror lockup and try to look at shutter blades while shooting with different exposure times. (without lens ofcourse so you can see the shutter in action). You might see the problem.


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Feb 11, 2016 15:11 |  #4

edit..

Sorry I misunderstood the problem. Your problem is the shadow that appears?
Weird.


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Feb 11, 2016 15:15 |  #5

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #17894659 (external link)
Did anyone read the Exif?

The ISO jumped from 400 to 1250 in the first two images. That is why the shutter speed increased.

There is nothing wrong with your camera, you just have something set to auto.

Did you see what appears to be the blade in the photo? Shutter blade or aperture blade (maybe?). That doesn't like something that could be a result of "auto" settings to me . . . though I could be wrong.


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Feb 11, 2016 15:15 |  #6

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #17894659 (external link)
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And what is that black thing then, if you think there is nothing wrong with camera? I say, it is shutter blade! :(


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Feb 11, 2016 15:16 |  #7

Owl_79 wrote in post #17894656 (external link)
Shutter failure.

Contact Canon service!

You may check this out:

Use mirror lockup and try to look at shutter blades while shooting with different exposure times. (without lens ofcourse so you can see the shutter in action). You might see the problem.

I tried that and everything looked fine. Maybe I'm missing something.

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Did anyone read the Exif?
No one noticing the exposures remain pretty close in the first few images?

The ISO jumped from 400 to 1250 to 5000 in the first images. That is why the shutter speed increased.

There is nothing wrong with your camera, you just have something set to auto.

I was using the ISO to increase the shutter speed in the photos to show how the black area increased with the increased shutter speed.


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Feb 11, 2016 15:19 |  #8

Yes, sorry I really misread the original posts wording, so was looking for a different problem all together.
It was a huge bit of dyslexic misunderstanding. (and I mean that 100% literally, not in jest)


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Feb 11, 2016 15:21 |  #9

The more I look at it . . . the more I'm convinced that it is an aperture blade: a lens issue not a body issue.


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Feb 11, 2016 15:25 |  #10

neacail wrote in post #17894670 (external link)
The more I look at it . . . the more I'm convinced that it is an aperture blade: a lens issue not a body issue.

It happens on all of my lenses. The last white img was with no lens attached that's why I'm thinking it's shutter related


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Feb 11, 2016 15:28 |  #11

neacail: It is easy to check:
push down dof preview button and adjust lens aperture all the way from 2.8 to 32 or so.. and same time look at the aperture how it works through front of the lens.
However, all those photos are at f/2.8 aperture!

I'm sure its the shutter blade.


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Feb 11, 2016 15:29 |  #12

king. wrote in post #17894673 (external link)
It happens on all of my lenses. The last white img was with no lens attached that's why I'm thinking it's shutter related

Hmm. I was thinking it was an oily aperture blade not snapping back in time. Now I don't know what to think.


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Feb 11, 2016 15:31 |  #13

This is going back to my film days. Assuming that the shutters work by the same principle, At low shutter speeds, the first shutter opens and the frame is completely open until the second shutter closes. At some point -- and this is how my eye perceived it -- the perception for high speeds is that the gap was never fully open. It appeared to the eye as if an open bar bordered by the trailing edge of the first shutter and leading edge of the second shutter traveled across the frame. The higher the shutter speed, the narrower the bar. I get the feeling that in your case if the first shutter is dragging something it would have more of an impact at higher shutter speeds. This is speculation on my part. In any event it sounds like it's time for a trip to the repair shop.


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Feb 11, 2016 15:33 |  #14

king. wrote in post #17894673 (external link)
It happens on all of my lenses. The last white img was with no lens attached that's why I'm thinking it's shutter related

Huh. That would rule out the lens.

Those photos aren't what I'd expect from a shutter failure. The 5DIII has rectangular shutter blades, doesn't it?


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Feb 11, 2016 15:39 |  #15

neacail wrote in post #17894683 (external link)
Huh. That would rule out the lens.

Those photos aren't what I'd expect from a shutter failure. The 5DIII has rectangular shutter blades, doesn't it?

those photos looks exactly the same when shutter fails. As a camera mechanic, I know these :)

yes, shutter blade is recangular if its ok. Take a recangular paper, twist and turn it and its no more rectangular.


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