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Making the most out of a Canon Rebel Xti

 
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Feb 15, 2016 10:43 as a reply to  @ post 17899078 |  #16

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Feb 15, 2016 12:01 |  #17

Here is one of the XTI threads. Worth looking through and getting ideas or check out lenses used.
https://photography-on-the.net …read.php?t=4964​04&page=80

Or here is the XTI gallery. The nice thing about the gallery is the picture information is posted beneath.
https://photography-on-the.net/forum/gallery.​php?camera=125


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Feb 15, 2016 12:22 as a reply to  @ Chet's post |  #18

Oh sweet! Yeah, this helps a lot. Thank you!




  
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Feb 15, 2016 12:33 |  #19

if you don't want to spend more on a lens than the cost of your body you'll be pretty limited...i can't imagine an xti selling for more than $100...for less than a $100 you can look at an old 18-55mm, maybe not even the IS or STM versions...or maybe an old 50mm f1.8 II...but yeah, you're not going to get much


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Feb 17, 2016 08:41 |  #20

The kit I frequently recommend for any Rebel or xxD (50D, 60D, 70D, etc) is as follows:

10-18 STM

18-55 STM or 18-135 STM

55-250 STM

50 f/1.8 STM

Eventually you will want all four of these.

The reviews of the 55-250 STM are far more favorable than your 75-300 but that doesn't mean you should run out and replace it.

All of these lenses - except the 50 f/1.8 - are readily available used in mint condition or close thereto for a good bit less than they cost new. Look around.




  
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Feb 17, 2016 22:55 |  #21

The XTi is a nice little learners camera and can still do a nice job with the right glass. I still have mine as a backup body

I took this with my XTi and an older kit lens several years ago and its still one of my favorite fireworks shots.


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Feb 18, 2016 06:55 |  #22

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The kit I frequently recommend for any Rebel or xxD (50D, 60D, 70D, etc) is as follows:

10-18 STM

18-55 STM or 18-135 STM

55-250 STM

50 f/1.8 STM

Eventually you will want all four of these.

The reviews of the 55-250 STM are far more favorable than your 75-300 but that doesn't mean you should run out and replace it.

All of these lenses - except the 50 f/1.8 - are readily available used in mint condition or close thereto for a good bit less than they cost new. Look around.

Sorry but that is not really true. Of all of those lenses in your list I would want only one of them, the 10-18 STM, and I would only pick that one because it is the cheapest lens in a focal length range that I would not use very often. If it were a focal length range that I would use a lot, then I would be looking for the best quality lens, or at least a mid range lens, not the cheapy.

Also why do so many folks recommend a short telephoto lens as the first fast prime that people should buy? it makes no sense. Would you recommend an 85mm lens as a first fast prime on a 35mm format camera? Or would you be recommending the just slightly longer than normal (43mm) 50mm lens? Something fast in the 28 to 35mm range would be a much better bet for a first fast prime for a user of an APS-C format (27mm normal FL) camera. Just because a lens is cheap, thank to it being the most commonly sold focal length for a different format, should not make it a perfect buy for a camera of a different format, that shares a common lens mount.

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Feb 18, 2016 08:09 |  #23

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Sorry but that is not really true.

Which part? It was an opinion not a fact. Hopefully, yours as well.

As a former Xti owner and current Sl1 owner, I do favor this four lens type of kit. And I suspect I am not alone in that feeling based on hundreds of posts in this direction.

I can see either version of the 35 - with and without IS. I have the f/2 IS but that gets used almost exclusively on the full frame and the 50 on the crop.

For someone with a $100 DSLR like the Xti, I don't see the point in running out to buy more expensive primes (two to three times as much) but to each his own.

Indeed, if I had to leave one lens off the list, it would be the prime.

BTW, since you are dismissing the rather well regarded 18-55 STM and 18-135 STM, I am curious as to whether you have owned them or at least tried them extensively.




  
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Feb 18, 2016 09:41 |  #24

As well as being a great camera out of the box, a non-Canon firmware upgrade (similar to Magic Lantern) has been developed for the Xti (400D).

Check it out here.
https://github.com/400​plus/400plus/releases (external link)

It gives you neat features like Spot Focus, Auto-ISO, Intervalometer and many others.
It has Custom Modes - so you can save settings like the C1,C2 etc on later models.

Check out those new features here
https://github.com …s/400plus/wiki/​User-guide (external link)


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Feb 18, 2016 10:04 |  #25

Xti is a fine little camera. I carried one for a four month, live-out-of-suitcase, trip around Europe. carried the 10-22 Canon superwide, the 17-85mm IS zoom and a 70-300 IS zoom.
Results were fantastic, even using 1600 ISO handheld in the depths of a French cave.

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Feb 18, 2016 10:39 |  #26

You can shoot iso 1600. Lit only by the laptop straight out of the camera.

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Feb 18, 2016 11:10 |  #27

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You can shoot iso 1600. Lit only by the laptop straight out of the camera.

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That is a wonderful shot. I loved my Xti - first DSLR I owned.




  
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Feb 18, 2016 13:04 |  #28

BigAl007 wrote in post #17903024 (external link)
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Also why do so many folks recommend a short telephoto lens as the first fast prime that people should buy? .

CMR wrote in post #17898637 (external link)
I am looking to do some portraits ...

Thanks!

Because 50mm f.1.8 STM on an XTI makes a brilliant affordable portrait length prime for a fraction of the cost of getting an 85mm on full frame.

Because the OP asked for a good portrait prime.

Because it's an excellent optics for about $100.00 new. It's always been the go to for that reason. Sensor size does not change those facts.

Yes, I recommend the 85mm f/1.8 all the time to people, even when it costs 4 times the 50mm. Who ever said one should go for "normal" first?

The other good super affordable primes are sadly not as fast, but certainly ones I would not be without,
24mm f/2.8 pancake, and 40mm f/2.8 pancake. I use both of these more often than the 50mm, as you suggest, and now they are available they are great options.



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Feb 23, 2016 07:09 as a reply to  @ BigAl007's post |  #29

These new STM "cheapie" lenses can sometimes beat out some of the more pricey units. There is no other bang for the buck than these newest STM lenses like the 18-55 and 55-250. They are inexpensive, deliver excellent IQ, and once you have funds to upgrade to something more robust, faster, or longer, then you can sell these for very little loss. The 18-55 is a good walk around lens, and actually makes for a great pseudo macro lens and also a group portrait lens. The 55-250 is very light and versatile, and focusing is not too far off to the USM L lenses. The 50 1.8 is one of the first primes always suggested due to its performance on a crop body being around 80mm on a FF, and makes for a very good portrait lens.

We have fortunately gotten out of the era of "cheap and ineffective Canon kit lenses", they have finally produced a great set of EFS starter lenses.


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Jan 18, 2017 21:27 |  #30

I hate breaking a great kill, but alas, I will.

I was playing with photo's from Disney and figured I would see what would happen if I pushed the file to see recovery. I must say for a 9 year old XTi, I'm somewhat impressed. I remember taking the camera (xti) in 2007 and it was a pain to lug around, so no way was I going to take the 1dmkiii and the 24-70. With a 18 month old kid, just wasn't happening. I took the xti and kit lens, and got what I got, which still beats most cell phones. I've printed 20 x 30" prints that look fantastic, so it will represent when needed.

Ok, crappy picture of the crowd and the Castle in the Magic Kingdom at Disney World. Pushed it in LR, and got halfway decent results. I will probably throw this away as it really has nothing in it that holds special meaning, but I'm happy to know I can recover a picture that may mean something to me.

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