Question about a new camera to get

I'm planning on getting something in the next 2-3 months. I've disregarded mostly the Sony a7 line. I thought about the new a6300. it seems ok.
But, what i like to shoot is wildlife/landscapes/ca​rs/bicycles. I live in south florida really west of Miami not that far from the everglades so I see a lot of the smaller heron and they're skittish. and then night time stuff with friends in the bike scene. I thought about a 6d but I keep seeing it might get replaced. And the 80d looks good (I thought about a 70d). I also wanted to learn to do some astro though so thats why I was leaning towards FF. My budget is $1500 or less. I had a t4i and i really liked the articulating screen. and i know you cant get a 5d3 for what i want to spend. should i wait till people get the 80d or should i just get the 6d , i know its not that good for action things but it can be if you learn. mostly I'm more interested in low light performance.

itsray wrote in post #17912872
I'm planning on getting something in the next 2-3 months. I've disregarded mostly the Sony a7 line. I thought about the new a6300. it seems ok.
But, what i like to shoot is wildlife/landscapes/ca​rs/bicycles. I live in south florida really west of Miami not that far from the everglades so I see a lot of the smaller heron and they're skittish. and then night time stuff with friends in the bike scene. I thought about a 6d but I keep seeing it might get replaced. And the 80d looks good (I thought about a 70d). I also wanted to learn to do some astro though so thats why I was leaning towards FF. My budget is $1500 or less. I had a t4i and i really liked the articulating screen. and i know you cant get a 5d3 for what i want to spend. should i wait till people get the 80d or should i just get the 6d , i know its not that good for action things but it can be if you learn. mostly I'm more interested in low light performance.

You're worried the 6D might be replaced? It will.....all of the camera models will be replaced. If you wait for the new one you'll never own anything.

You know the 6D isn't good for action? Really? How? By reading all of the regurgitation on the interweb? I read that crap too. I guess I better stop using mine for any kind of action.

You're quite correct about one thing...the part where you said 'if you learn'. You had a pretty nice camera in the T4i.........if you learn. What became of the T4?

I got a lot truly great pictures with my 600D.

Any body you buy will depreciate rapidly. You might as well bite the bullet and get one sooner rather than later. Upgrades nowadays are marginal.
Good glass on the other hand depreciates much more slowly, buy the right lenses for your style of shooting and keep them for a long, long time.

itsray wrote in post #17912872
I'm planning on getting something in the next 2-3 months. I've disregarded mostly the Sony a7 line. I thought about the new a6300. it seems ok.
But, what i like to shoot is wildlife/landscapes/ca​rs/bicycles. I live in south florida really west of Miami not that far from the everglades so I see a lot of the smaller heron and they're skittish. and then night time stuff with friends in the bike scene. I thought about a 6d but I keep seeing it might get replaced. And the 80d looks good (I thought about a 70d). I also wanted to learn to do some astro though so thats why I was leaning towards FF. My budget is $1500 or less. I had a t4i and i really liked the articulating screen. and i know you cant get a 5d3 for what i want to spend. should i wait till people get the 80d or should i just get the 6d , i know its not that good for action things but it can be if you learn. mostly I'm more interested in low light performance.

Heya,

With camera... comes lens. So you have to consider that cost too. What are you going to shoot birds with? A 200mm? 400mm? Longer? How much do you want to get into those heron? 200~300mm on APS-C is great for large birds. But on a full frame, you'll need 400mm to even begin to have the reach unless you're literally walking over them, so that adds to cost. Consider that. Low light night time shooting, the AF can matter a lot more than just the ISO, if you want an in-focus photo. The 6D will do that. The 80D will do that. There's a lot of good reasons to get either one. If you are willing to get huge glass for your birds and stuff, the 6D can do it for you. If you want to put less stress on needing big glass, the APS-C can be a great alternative. If you want an articulating screen and all that fun stuff, there's only a few bodies that do it and are mostly all APS-C from Canon. The 80D is a very well rounded camera, on paper. Needs time to release and be really reviewed to know more about. Astro can be done with either full frame or APS-C, I wouldn't stress about one or the other with a modern camera these days, the stress will be on the processing and/or using a tracker, etc, if you get serious about it (and you will need dark skies, like near the Everglades, not near Miami). And either sensor size will handle landscape and cars/bikes just fine, so I wouldn't worry there, the glass is the bigger difference.

Very best,

my t4i i had to sell for financial reasons. that camera was great. but i really liked the screen. i had a 70-200 F2.8 nikon film lens i got an adaptor to. but it was all manual and it weight about lbs . it was great. i still have it. i tried to use it but it was hard since i wasn't familiar with film cameras. the other lenses i had were the kit lenses and i got to use a 25-105 for a few hours. this is what i got trying to pan a running dog with the nikon lens hand held at 200mm on the t4i.

i was leaning towards the 6d since i think it can do all the t4i i had plus full frame advantage? I don't do video. that was my best shot ever holding the heavy nikon adapted 70-200 f2.8 hand held (push to pull zoom) with my neighbors dog running. i can keep that lens. but i want something i can use outdoors incase of bike rides and maybe cars. and astro

i just keep hearing about the 6d 2. but if any of you guys have the 5dmk2 or 3 would you get a 6d ?

If you have a Nikon lens, why not consider a Nikon? You aren't trenched into anything.

Also, with a budget of $1,500, don't buy FF. You need glass. Buy a 70d, and get some great glass. You will absolutely see the difference between even using a 5d3 and an adopted manual focus lens. I would recommend a 70D and a Canon 70-200 F4 IS. You will get some amazing quality with that setup.

my mother had a nikon film camera and i got an adapter to use the lenses she had. the t4i was the first dslr i learned on other than an older canon p/s. I've used the 24-105L and i got some great pictures. i just thought full frame might be better if i wanted to get into astro and low light since a lot of my pictures would be late at light.

itsray wrote in post #17913112
i just keep hearing about the 6d 2. but if any of you guys have the 5dmk2 or 3 would you get a 6d ?

There is always something coming, but it turms out whenever a new model comes out the old one still works. A used 7D would still be considerably better than what you've been shooting. That said if you want to wildlife a crop body might better than the 6D. The 6D isnt helpless as people have pointed out but there might be better options in a crop body, a 70D perhaps.

but what about astro? most of the time i shoot at night

People did Astro photography before the 6d or 5d3 were out.

Does your $1,500 budget include the glass that you need to buy as well? Or have you also budgeted for the glass as well?

Just remember if you buy a full frame camera, your lenses may not work. You'll need to have all EF lenses but any EF or EF-S lens will work on the crop sensor. That was a big factor in my decision.

itsray wrote in post #17913185
but what about astro? most of the time i shoot at night

Not every camera will be the perfect tool for every application. Be honest and prioritize the things you shoot, pick the best camera (within your budget) and accept that it may not be the best for other types of stuff. No modern DSLR is helpless and skilled users can shoot most things with most bodies.

thanks. for the advice. my nikon lenses are from film cameras so they're ff. but i might not use them. i think i might get a 6d since its good for most stuff and it has good iso