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Feb 27, 2016 15:19 |  #1

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I am about to buy an AD360 and I was wondering if I "need" an AD-S17 Wide Angle Soft Focus Shade Diffuser (weddings and interior sessions) ...
Any experience with this one?
Can anyone make a comparison with/without, photographing a person from 3 meters? (bounced on the ceiling and straight on)

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Feb 27, 2016 15:27 |  #2

I have a couple of them and rarely use them.
If I want the chinese lantern look then I go with a big umbrella with a black out panel in back. Like this one: http://www.amazon.com …keywords=umbrel​la+softbox (external link)

Or use the umbrella reflector for the AD360 to keep the light off the walls and let the bare bulb light the room.


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dmward wrote in post #17915294 (external link)
I have a couple of them and rarely use them.
If I want the chinese lantern look then I go with a big umbrella with a black out panel in back. Like this one: http://www.amazon.com …keywords=umbrel​la+softbox (external link)

Or use the umbrella reflector for the AD360 to keep the light off the walls and let the bare bulb light the room.

Bumping this thread after searching "AD-S17" which is the dome diffuser for the Godox 360 or 200s

I'm getting a stofen or Lighsphere for my speedlites for reception area photos. For higher ceilings or big rooms I was pondering the Godox diffuser or an umbrella. The link you posted is defunct, but a couple brands offer the umbrella with black back.

When you use that shoot through for that purpose, are you angling the umbrella at 45 degrees in the same way Stofen recommends a 45 degree angle?

Several models only show white with black backing, but only one I found notes that there is a silver reflective which must be on the reverse side. I'd rather have the silver inside if possible, and 33 inches. But the one with silver inside is 40 inches or 43 inches.


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Mar 11, 2019 20:26 |  #4

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I'm getting a stofen or Lighsphere for my speedlites for reception area photos. For higher ceilings or big rooms I was pondering the Godox diffuser or an umbrella. The link you posted is defunct, but a couple brands offer the umbrella with black back.

Get a shoot-thru, not one with black backing (unless it is removable, making it into white shoot-thru) I find any silver reflector panel or umbrella to be too 'hot' for my liking. I have never heard of doing anything with an umbrella but aiming at your subject (the lone exception is the use of 'feathering' to use slightly dimmer edges of umbrella illuminated area to illuminate closer people in a group shot when the group is in line at a slight angle to the camera.

The Godox is sized almost the same as a Lightsphere, so nearly useless where a ceiling is not serving as an indirect bounce...a 5" size does little to 'soften' light except when you are much too close to your subject.


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Wilt wrote in post #18827322 (external link)
Get a shoot-thru, not one with black backing (unless it is removable, making it into white shoot-thru) I find any silver reflector panel or umbrella to be too 'hot' for my liking. I have never heard of doing anything with an umbrella but aiming at your subject (the lone exception is the use of 'feathering' to use slightly dimmer edges of umbrella illuminated area to illuminate closer people in a group shot when the group is in line at a slight angle to the camera.

The Godox is sized almost the same as a Lightsphere, so nearly useless where a ceiling is not serving as an indirect bounce...a 5" size does little to 'soften' light except when you are much too close to your subject.


As I pondered this, it seemed just using a white umbrella rather than a closed back brolly should be fine. Because with the power the 360s have available, it wouldn't matter if light spilled out the back. I'd wager what passes through is the same with a regular white shoot-through umbrella.

And from what I recall, and dimensions on Amazon pages, the Godox dome is barely bigger than the Fong Lightsphere. So either one of those would be a small source of light in a big room.


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mdvaden wrote in post #18827379 (external link)
As I pondered this, it seemed just using a white umbrella rather than a closed back brolly should be fine. Because with the power the 360s have available, it wouldn't matter if light spilled out the back. I'd wager what passes through is the same with a regular white shoot-through umbrella.

And from what I recall, and dimensions on Amazon pages, the Godox dome is barely bigger than the Fong Lightsphere. So either one of those would be a small source of light in a big room.

Reason for using the black backing is to keep the light off the wall behind the umbrella, which is aimed into the room. Having the bright area of the umbrella is bad enough. Don't need the whole wall behind lit as well.

Even a 33" shoot through umbrella is a relatively small light source across a 50 to 75 foot reception hall.

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