EOS 80D or EOS 7D MK2

The big question of the day... the new EOS 80D or the year old EOS 7D MK2. Very similar specifications; however I am interested in some interpretations of how the specs compare.

Seems as though they intentionally try to hold the 80D back but bumped up the pixel rating on the sensor.

What features are you needing the most? Does it matter if the camera's are spec'd differently? Every camera is a compromise.

Very true... I just keep thinking I must be missing something with the 80D. It's overall specs except for pixels is less than the 7D MK2 but the 80D is a 2016 model. I am finding canon's camera lineup progression more blurred and difficult to follow these days. Many old model are still mainstream and the new models are not as clearly defined as they once were.

The 80D is categorized as a "prosumer" camera. The 7D2 is categorized as a professional camera. The 70D was introduced in mid-2013 and so it's been almost 3 years between upgrades. The 7D2 was introduced in late 2014, so it is probably at least six months or more until an upgrade is likely, except that if the 80D has better high-ISO, noise and dynamic range it might force Canon to upgrade the 7D2 sooner.

Thanks for the additional clarification on the classifications. Other than those minor specs the 7DM2 looks like a better machine.

Small thing to also consider is if you think you'd want the swivel screen on the 80D. I've been using my 70D almost a year and a half now. Didn't think I'd use it much but since then I've learned to love it Also not sure if the 7D2 has touch screen?

Until we get to see some raws we can't really make any judgements about the 80D image quality. It could be that the 80D has better noise control and dynamic range than the 7D2. So then you'd have to decide if better noise control is more or less important than rugged, weather sealed and faster.

There are other things the 80D is better at than the 7D2. Video, for example. Maybe not important to you, but it accounts for about 50% of the work my daughter and I do. Having a camera that's good at both stills and video saves us money and gear. Right now we're using 70D's and I've preordered the 80D to see if its worth upgrading all our kits.

As I understand the line up, the 7d is aimed at sports photography while the 80d is geared for video work. Both are great (and similar) cameras.

DoughnutPhoto wrote in post #17922927
As I understand the line up, the 7d is aimed at sports photography while the 80d is geared for video work. Both are great (and similar) cameras.

The 7D2 is certainly aimed at people shooting moving targets, which is going to include sports, wildlife, concert/event photography and photojournalism. It has the FPS, and the buffer for it. But it's also aimed at professional photographers who are more likely to use their gear heavily and in less than idea environmental conditions.

The 60D/70D/80D lineup has always been targeting high-end enthusiasts; serious photographers who care about having things like a pentaprism viewfinder, a decent FPS rate, a top LCD, etc., but who don't necessarily want to pay for or carry a heavy, bullet-proof body or need features like dual card slots that pros shooting for paying clients will insist on having. The xxD line up also has a strong emphasis on being good for video, and overall these cameras are built to be general purpose; being adequate if not ideal for many types of photography.

Canon's xxxD, xxD and xD lineups do sometimes have overlap where they meet. Technology improvements close gaps in the lineup. The 80D and 7D2 will meet on just such a boundary, just as the 60D/70D and T6i/T6s did. Sometimes newer is better, sometimes it's not no simple. To make the right choice, you really do have to dig into the details and figure out what you need and what you can live without based on what you love or long for using your current gear.

I shoot with a pair of Canon 7D cameras. However, I would choose a 7D2 over an 80D because:

I don' have any use for a tilt screen.

The 7D2 has top-line AF capability - including center point AF at f/8 which would allow me to use the 1.4x TC with a 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS II lens.

Dual card capability might be nice but, it is not a deal maker for me.

I wish that the 7D2 had voice record capability which could be linked to a still image to record information about the image such as the name o the model. As is, I use low quality video and have the model repeat her name and email address.

RPCrowe wrote in post #17928737
I don' have any use for a tilt screen.

I thought and said the same before I got my 60D, and for a few weeks into owning it. Then I discovered how great it was for video, for high or low perspective shots, and especially for shooting on a tripod when the camera is angled severely down. Even just for tilting slightly to cut glare from the sun. Having eaten my words, now when I hear others who have never owned a camera with articulating screen dismiss this wonderful feature as unnecessary or useless, it's like hearing parenting advice from someone without kids; I feel like they can't possibly know.

RPCrowe wrote in post #17928737
I wish that the 7D2 had voice record capability which could be linked to a still image to record information about the image such as the name o the model. As is, I use low quality video and have the model repeat her name and email address.

OMG, they are talking dogs!?

RPCrowe wrote in post #17928737
I shoot with a pair of Canon 7D cameras. However, I would choose a 7D2 over an 80D because:

I don' have any use for a tilt screen.

The 7D2 has top-line AF capability - including center point AF at f/8 which would allow me to use the 1.4x TC with a 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS II lens.

Dual card capability might be nice but, it is not a deal maker for me.

I wish that the 7D2 had voice record capability which could be linked to a still image to record information about the image such as the name o the model. As is, I use low quality video and have the model repeat her name and email address.

I too would much prefer the 7DII for it's build and to me much simpler control interface, not to mention CF cards and the PC socket for times the RF studio flash triggers are struggling with RFI. For very often FL limited photographer the 24 MP over the 20 would be nice, but what would be really good would be for Canon to get the multiple focus point f/8 support of the 80D into the 7DII. That is a huge improvement over the single f/8 point in the 7DII, and really makes a 1.4× extender viable with the Sigma 150-600's or the 100-400 II. Given that I find that I regularly need to crop images from an APS-C sized sensor by an additional 1.5× when using 600mm, using multi point AF and shooting at 840mm would negate the need for the cropping.

Alan

RPCrowe wrote in post #17928737
I shoot with a pair of Canon 7D cameras. However, I would choose a 7D2 over an 80D because:

I don' have any use for a tilt screen.

The 7D2 has top-line AF capability - including center point AF at f/8 which would allow me to use the 1.4x TC with a 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS II lens.

Dual card capability might be nice but, it is not a deal maker for me.

I wish that the 7D2 had voice record capability which could be linked to a still image to record information about the image such as the name o the model. As is, I use low quality video and have the model repeat her name and email address.

Clarify s'il vous plait. The 80D has 27 f/8 AF points. How is the 7D2 with 1 f/2.8 AF point better? The ability to use my 100-400 & 1.4x TC seems a bit better with the 80D.

I had no use for a flippy screen, either. Having one has proven useful. It is amazing how many nails you see once you own a hammer.

According to a new analysis posted by dpreview, the 80D's sensor has improved dynamic range and it's better than the 7Dii. Here's the link:

http://www.dpreview.co​m …0_187673810_dpr​_nl_195_20

For video specifically....which one of these two would perform better??

Not including a big advantage of the tilt screen on the 80D.