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Mar 07, 2016 19:26 |  #1

I just installed LR CC on a new pc. On the old pc when I would "edit in Photoshop, edit original" and go into PS. When i hit save, LR would update with the changes made in PS keeping any previous LR adjustments I made. Now if I make any LR adjustments, open it in PS, hit save. LR resets any adjustments back to default.

I cant figure out how to get it to keep my LR adjustments.


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Mar 07, 2016 21:25 |  #2

I tried to reproduce what you describe, and could not. I edited a virtual copy of an image in LR CC (converted it to B&W), and then opened it for editing in PS CC. There I used a curves adjustment to increase the contrast to a ridiculous level, and hit Save. Back in LR I had the original B&W version, and the high-contrast B&W version created by PS. The LR editing (B&W conversion) was evident in both images.

What sort of adjustments are you making in LR?


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Mar 07, 2016 21:27 as a reply to  @ pknight's post |  #3

Now I see your problem. You chose "Edit Original," when you should be selecting "Edit Copy with Lightroom Adjustments." "Edit Original" ignores your LR adjustments.


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Mar 08, 2016 03:04 |  #4

+1 to above "edit copy with Lightroom Adjustments".


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Mar 08, 2016 06:06 |  #5

not quite.

On my old PC, let say i made some adjustments, say convert to B/W in LR. I decide I need to clone something out, so i right click, edit in PS, edit original. do my cloning , hit save and when i got back into LR, my black/white conversion and any adjustments are still applied, only now to the new tiff or psd.

whats happening now is when i return to LR the image defaults back to the original SOOC settings.

If I choose edit with lightroom settings i wont be able to get back to my original sooc shot if i wanted to.


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Mar 08, 2016 06:49 |  #6

When you hit save in PS it should be saving it as a .tiff or .psd file based on your settings. It does not apply your PS edits to the RAW file you opened from LR. Whatever edits you had on your LR raw file should still be there. Most likely you are seeing the images stacked in LR. If there is a number on the thumbnail in LR, RMB and select unstack. This will then show you both the raw and the tiff/psd file side by side (if you sort by date created).

When you open the image from LR w/ edit original should open the image in LR w/o any LR adjustments.


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What file type are you editing in Lightroom. Is it a RAW file or a TIFF/PSD/JPEG




  
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Mar 08, 2016 07:53 |  #8

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not quite.
If I choose edit with lightroom settings i wont be able to get back to my original sooc shot if i wanted to.

Not so. The original SOOC shot is always available. If you want the SOOC image of any LR-edited image, just create a virtual copy (to save your edits), select the original image, and click the Reset button in Develop. Your original will revert to its SOOC state, and the virtual copy will contain your LR edits. This is because, unlike PS, LR never changes a single pixel of the original image.


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Mar 08, 2016 08:56 |  #9

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Not so. The original SOOC shot is always available. If you want the SOOC image of any LR-edited image, just create a virtual copy (to save your edits), select the original image, and click the Reset button in Develop. Your original will revert to its SOOC state, and the virtual copy will contain your LR edits. This is because, unlike PS, LR never changes a single pixel of the original image.


clarification. I want my PS edits not to have any LR adjustments, when i edit them. The only edits i apply in PS are using cloning, healing, etc. all color, exposure adjustments are done in lightroom.


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Mar 08, 2016 09:01 as a reply to  @ NullMember's post |  #10

i edit RAW and PS creates .tiff. and LR creates a stack.

It seems that when LR creates imports the .tiff it doesn't apply the LR adjustments that were made to the image before I went into PS. Likewise if i make adjustments to the .tiff in photoshop after I made adjustments in PS, the tiff will revert back to its original unadjusted form. The save process in PS seems to make LR ignore or overwrite the sidecar file that it was associated with.


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mike_311 wrote in post #17927981 (external link)
clarification. I want my PS edits not to have any LR adjustments, when i edit them. The only edits i apply in PS are using cloning, healing, etc. all color, exposure adjustments are done in lightroom.


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i edit RAW and PS creates .tiff. and LR creates a stack.

It seems that when LR creates imports the .tiff it doesn't apply the LR adjustments that were made to the image before I went into PS. Likewise if i make adjustments to the .tiff in photoshop after I made adjustments in PS, the tiff will revert back to its original unadjusted form. The save process in PS seems to make LR ignore or overwrite the sidecar file that it was associated with.

You seem to be contradicting yourself




  
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Mar 08, 2016 09:28 |  #12

I think you're overly confused.


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Any edit to the Raw in LR will not effect the .tiff image. If you want the raw in LR to be SOOC then reset your develop settings.

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Mar 08, 2016 10:00 |  #14

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I think you're overly confused.

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Mar 08, 2016 10:09 |  #15

mike_311 wrote in post #17927822 (external link)
On my old PC, let say i made some adjustments, say convert to B/W in LR. I decide I need to clone something out, so i right click, edit in PS, edit original. do my cloning , hit save and when i got back into LR, my black/white conversion and any adjustments are still applied, only now to the new tiff or psd.

I have never heard of any version of LR/Photoshop being able to do what you describe....
- edit RAW in LR - Open that image in PS without edits - edit the image (creates a new TIFF) - return back to LR where the edits from the RAW file get applied to the new file.

That's not to say it can't be done, just that I don't know of any way it could happen automatically. You can do it by selecting the edited RAW, then the new TIFF and then select Sync Setting, which will copy all the edits across to the TIFF.

There may possibly be a way to get what you describe if you use Smart Objects but I have never heard of it.


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