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filming 60 fps on my 7D2? Whats the advantage?

 
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Mar 08, 2016 16:09 |  #1

I have shot 24p now for years. Now that I have the 7D2, I can shoot 60p. I really like the look of 24p when not panning; but just wanted to get any feedback on other pros for shooting 60p?

I Plan on using for shooting some standalone interviews.


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Mar 08, 2016 16:35 |  #2

I have noticed smoother video when doing slow motion when shooting 60P vs 24P.


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Mar 08, 2016 19:57 as a reply to  @ diamonddawg21's post |  #3

I reckon I'll just need to text, and look at both full screen. I do agree with you regarding slow mo. It never is very smooth with 24p.


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Mar 08, 2016 20:05 |  #4

It's going to depend on the subject. You might prefer the way 60P looks because it will render sharper images. But often the sharper images look artificial, i.e., "cut-out." I generally record everything at 30P except for using 60P for sports, where I might want to slow down the final clip.


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Mar 09, 2016 08:12 |  #5

bumpintheroad wrote in post #17928682 (external link)
It's going to depend on the subject. You might prefer the way 60P looks because it will render sharper images. But often the sharper images look artificial, i.e., "cut-out." I generally record everything at 30P except for using 60P for sports, where I might want to slow down the final clip.

Do you generally use MOV of MP4? In the past I generally threw videos on a DVD to give to others, Additionally, which compression do you use, ALL_I or IPB? I take mostly videos of musicals, concerts and clubdates. I do some light editing to transition from cut to cut. I've taken an extensive number of performance videos on my Canon 60D at 30fps, but the rest of that cameras video options are much more limited than on the 7D2. Although I've had mine for 8 months I haven't taken any videos yet except for a test of two.


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Mar 09, 2016 11:30 |  #6

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Do you generally use MOV of MP4? In the past I generally threw videos on a DVD to give to others, Additionally, which compression do you use, ALL_I or IPB?...

I use MOV, and when shooting 24P (or 30P) ALL_i but 60P only gives you the IPB option. Usually try to get most highest quality available.


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Mar 09, 2016 13:30 |  #7

I always save in MOV format. Compression is a more difficult consideration. All-I retains more detail in moving objects than IPB at a cost of 3-4x larger video files. I've always used All-I but as disk space gets consumed I'm starting to wonder whether I can get away with using IPB most of the time.


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Mar 09, 2016 21:18 |  #8

javapop wrote in post #17928464 (external link)
I have shot 24p now for years. Now that I have the 7D2, I can shoot 60p. I really like the look of 24p when not panning; but just wanted to get any feedback on other pros for shooting 60p?

I Plan on using for shooting some standalone interviews.

Are you expecting to show the video on a 60p display?
24p is an "old" rate based on film efficiency. The shutterspeed will probably be a more important variable - check this (external link) out:

Thus, to achieve a ‘film’ look with a digital camera, it is always best to set the shutter speed at half that of the frame rate. In doing so, motion will be optimally rendered (enough motion blur to render motion smooth without become messy) but also will deliver the audience with an experience inline with convention – motion will render the same way a professional film will.

Thus, even at a frame rate of 24p, a shutterspeed that freezes motion (e.g. 1/1000) can give a jittery feel on playback.
1/48 sec for 24 fps will look blurrier than 1/120 for 60 fps but both will be smoother than using faster shutter - some people like the blurrier 24p filmic look:D For shoots where there is little motion, it makes little difference, IMO


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