Broncolor Siros?? Also new Bron modifier lineup

Really surprised that there is close to no user information on the Siros line from Bron. The prices along with the modifiers are relatively cheap. Well I know some people are going to contest that but they're not up in the clouds like what we're used to. With school discount the Siros 400 basic is about $750 USD and the 400 S is $1,100. The 800 and 800 S are both very close to $1,400. Anyone have experience with this lineup? Would a vagabond mini be able to power the Siros safely on location?

That $750 model is really tempting. Thoughts? Also, does anyone have any feedback on the modifiers--in particular the tear down/using them on location?

Just trying to get some discussion going.

I would not use a Vagabond for any of the European brands' units. I'd use whatever mobile power kits the given brand (in this case Bron) provides. Less chance of frying something that way.

But if you must use third party, I'd veer towards the Photogenic Ion (see here: https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=-hPJXCjOWs4), and even so, you'd probably only be able to power only one monolight. With the mobile power units from the original brand you'd get full compatibility, more power and less anxiety.

I can't comment on the Siros units myself, as I'm not a Brocolor user, but they're top notch, as Broncolor is a manufacturer of quality equipment.

Another POTN member recently purchased the Siros; hopefully, he'll see this thread and comment on his experiences.

Thanks for the reply. Yes, hoping more people will chime in. As for the mobile power Bron never made one and as far as I know don't plan on it either. They actually mention and suggest a 3rd party pack made from Godox but it's like $1,000 USD which does not appeal to me at all (would go Profoto B1 in that case).

That's really a shame. Well, it seems to me that Bron has always been more focused on power pack technology than in self-contained strobres. Their Siros line is pretty new from what I gather, and it looks more like an afterthought, or an attempt to compete in the monolight niche. I've looked at their web site and most of the light formers they have are primarily for strobe pack heads.

I own a siros 400s. Lovin it so far. Colour consistency is spot on. Yesterday morning I shot at a school. 80 kids in an hour and a half. Every shot is consistant. No misfires. Once I had it dialed in I never had to think about it the rest of the shoot. So far I highly recommend it.

After my terrible experience with the buff people I was choosing between Hensel, Profoto and Bron. I am not sure I dig the recessed tube of the profoto. I loved the Hensel line but wanted more stopping power (freezing action) so I went with the Broncolor.

Go with the Godox power supply for mobile use. Bron recommend it. I wouldnt recommend the buff vaga with the Siros. There are some YT videos on the Bron channel where they use it. (the godox)

There is actually a bunch of siros info on you tube. A YT user Do Duc Hoc has posted the 50 min Bron Siros user video. Bron also has some stuff with Karl Taylor.

Modifier are pricey.Really pricey! But they are high quality. Saving my pennies for a para at the moment. That's alot of pennies but it can do the work of a number of modifiers. Other manufacturers modifiers can be used with an appropriate speedring. My main modifier is a very large rotalux octa. I have not heard of any complaints of set up tear down with bron modifiers.

The prices you can get the siros at are amazing (are you in the US?)

If you have any other questions I will try my best to answer them.

Thanks for the reply!

Yes I am based in the USA. Looking a little more into the mobile pack it seems (needs more research) that there is a cheaper Dynalite badged pack that is the same as the Godox one. The Dynalite XP-800 which I have found for $719 from Adorama. If I can find a cheap solution to the mobile situation the Brons look like a winner to me.

Seems there is no info on the basic non-S models do you happen to know anything about the basic non-S 400 model? That one is $350 cheaper than the S.

I will look on Youtube for more info as you suggested. Thanks again!

EDIT: Confirmed online from: http://www.lightingrum​ours.com …er-for-photographers-3663 that the Dynalite is exactly the same and found a cheaper price of $626.50

EDIT 2: Found this item for $450, supposedly made by Bron? http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …900_Battery.htm​l/mode/edu

I found online PDF manuals from Bron for the same product. This makes me wonder why Bron recommends the Godox and no mention of this unit? My guess is because the Siros comes in 800 and 400 configuration and the power box only goes up to 900? But if we go with the 400 unit you can in theory power 2 of them on location. Not sure but thought I'd share in case anyone else is interested.

PDF is here: http://hasselbladbron.​com …or/powerbox900_​manual.pdf

for location look at the new Godox lights Cheetah has pre buy open now about $599 with the Tx unit
for studio the edu price is great on the brons for sure

my only thing about the modifiers is lack of grids for many of them ?

my bad I should say availability always special order it seems ? and when I was looking into the strips at least I was told no frim ETA on grids for them would have to oder and wait 7-14 days ?
will they be here for sure ? well I cant say you have to wait ? HUH !!!!!!

IMHO more a vendor issue maybe ?
and the fact so few places carry them I never could get a %100 firm when it would arrive ?

Yeah i've thought about Cheetah lights quite often. Who knows maybe I will go that route, still doing research. However, at the moment I'd really prefer to stick to Profoto or Bron.

And for the grids.. yes you are correct. There are some but not many grid options for Brons modifiers which is a let down.

Hensel Integras are another option. They have nothing to ask from Profoto (which is kinda overpriced –it's becoming the Apple of photographic lighting), and there's no paucity of modifiers or grids. Hensel's all I use (except for macro shots in the park where I use my 430EX-II).

I would definitely get it in writing from Bron that the other box will work. If it does the same job this is good news!

Which Bron modifiers dont have grids?

I was under the impression the non S model was the same just without the speed mode.

Definitely investigate the Hensels too as both brands have pluses and minuses although they are more similar than different.

I've sent Broncolor an email regarding the Visatec pack. Hopefully they answer. If they do I'll be sure to post what they say here. As for Hansel they are good, no doubt.

For the lack of grids I'm purely basing that off what I see on B&H's (big US distributor if not the biggest for camera gear in general) catalog. There aren't too many grid options unless I'm missing something.

Check whether there are any dealers in your area or close to it: http://www.bron.ch …or/buy-rent/where-to-buy/

B&H is great, but sometimes it's best to go with someone smaller/closer as you get a more personalised, focused, efficient, and overall better service. These dealers are also quicker to answer your questions and more knowledgeable and can advise you better, as they don't have to deal with thousands of products.

Click accessories under each modifier. For softboxes and Paras grids galore! (If you want 40s)

http://www.bron.ch …350a4a07f64658c​7f8e42df67

Alveric wrote in post #17932248
B&H is great, but sometimes it's best to go with someone smaller/closer as you get a more personalised, focused, efficient, and overall better service. These dealers are also quicker to answer your questions and more knowledgeable and can advise you better, as they don't have to deal with thousands of products.

Excellent advice.

you can find them under the egg crates option under lighting on BH site

corrected my post above for me its lack of having them on hand at retailers and getting them with a firm time when they come in ?
again maybe I got a idiot at BH ? but could not get a for sure when they come in at all

the other guy who posted about smaller dealers ? good idea for sure maybe to go with more small dealer for service usually BH is pretty good

but for me that is also a issue ? its grids ? they should just have them on hand and ready to go IMHO again more a dealer thing but shows maybe there is not enough warrant to carry bron ?

other great companies with great boxes and everything you want ready to ship

again just my thoughts and really this stuff is all so personal of what we like or want

Spicy61 wrote in post #17932220
I've sent Broncolor an email regarding the Visatec pack. Hopefully they answer. If they do I'll be sure to post what they say here. As for Hansel they are good, no doubt.

For the lack of grids I'm purely basing that off what I see on B&H's (big US distributor if not the biggest for camera gear in general) catalog. There aren't too many grid options unless I'm missing something.