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Mar 21, 2016 20:20 |  #31

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I dont care and not interested at all in Profoto.
I just need feature like their transmitter on X1 :).

Maybe X1 can add feature where if we press Gr button and hold it for few seconds it will trigger only the selected group. Or its already used for other feature?

Godox is working on some updates to incorporate modeling lights and audio. What would be nice is if Godox would change the way that the "CH" button worked. You should have quick access to the Custom functions with a single press and then pressing & holding would select the channel to change. This would allow putting some more items in the custom functions and having quick access to them. You could turn modeling light "ON"/"OFF" in there (CFn 06 :00 "OFF", :01 LOW, :02 MED, :03HI ). You could turn the Beep "ON"/"OFF" in there CFn 07 :00 "OFF" & :01 "ON"). As you suggested you could change the way the "GR" button worked when pressing & holding to where it could either be used as Global power changes as it does now or as a remote trigger to fire the Group selected in the middle next to it and the white dot (CFn08 :00 "Global" & :01 "Meter"). You could change the Group Mode for new and older DSLRs CFn09 :00 5 Group <Gr> mode & :01 3 Group <Gr> mode (for older DSLRs). CFn10 :00 etc...


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Mar 22, 2016 05:32 |  #32

agv8or wrote in post #17943743 (external link)
Godox is working on some updates to incorporate modeling lights and audio. What would be nice is if Godox would change the way that the "CH" button worked. You should have quick access to the Custom functions with a single press and then pressing & holding would select the channel to change. This would allow putting some more items in the custom functions and having quick access to them. You could turn modeling light "ON"/"OFF" in there (CFn 06 :00 "OFF", :01 LOW, :02 MED, :03HI ). You could turn the Beep "ON"/"OFF" in there CFn 07 :00 "OFF" & :01 "ON"). As you suggested you could change the way the "GR" button worked when pressing & holding to where it could either be used as Global power changes as it does now or as a remote trigger to fire the Group selected in the middle next to it and the white dot (CFn08 :00 "Global" & :01 "Meter"). You could change the Group Mode for new and older DSLRs CFn09 :00 5 Group <Gr> mode & :01 3 Group <Gr> mode (for older DSLRs). CFn10 :00 etc...

Hey guys, first post here. :)

What brought me here was a Google search, as I just (today) received my X1N and XTR16 combo, hoping to use them for my GT-400 strobes, but to no avail. I've updated the firmware on the transmitter which means it actually triggers the strobe consistently, rather than giving me one flash and turning the power off. But what I didn't realise before I bought it, is that unlike the FT-16, there seems to be no way to change from the standard system, to Godox's slightly odd stepping system used in their strobes. On the FT-16, this was achieved by holding the set button for 2 seconds, while I've searched, and searched on the X1 and found nothing. Am I missing something, or is this a known "feature"? It seems strange that Godox would not make their system backwards compatible with their strobes, though the release of their new QT-600II shows that they're planning on standardising soon.

To that end, if any Godox-linked people are listening (though I realise they probably aren't), it would be lovely if we could set one or more (heck, I'd settle for all) of the groups to support the stepping mode (5.0-10) found on my GT Series strobes (please)! Otherwise, I agree totally with what you're saying here Rand! These are all features that would make what promises to be a great system system sooo much more user-friendly for us studio photographers...

For now, it's back to the FT-16 so I can have some control, until either I can (fully) control my strobes like I can with the FT trigger, or until I can afford to upgrade to a QT-600II/AD600B combo.


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Mar 22, 2016 10:14 |  #33

agv8or wrote in post #17943743 (external link)
Godox is working on some updates to incorporate modeling lights and audio. What would be nice is if Godox would change the way that the "CH" button worked. You should have quick access to the Custom functions with a single press and then pressing & holding would select the channel to change. This would allow putting some more items in the custom functions and having quick access to them. You could turn modeling light "ON"/"OFF" in there (CFn 06 :00 "OFF", :01 LOW, :02 MED, :03HI ). You could turn the Beep "ON"/"OFF" in there CFn 07 :00 "OFF" & :01 "ON"). As you suggested you could change the way the "GR" button worked when pressing & holding to where it could either be used as Global power changes as it does now or as a remote trigger to fire the Group selected in the middle next to it and the white dot (CFn08 :00 "Global" & :01 "Meter"). You could change the Group Mode for new and older DSLRs CFn09 :00 5 Group <Gr> mode & :01 3 Group <Gr> mode (for older DSLRs). CFn10 :00 etc...

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Hey guys, first post here. :)

What brought me here was a Google search, as I just (today) received my X1N and XTR16 combo, hoping to use them for my GT-400 strobes, but to no avail. I've updated the firmware on the transmitter which means it actually triggers the strobe consistently, rather than giving me one flash and turning the power off. But what I didn't realise before I bought it, is that unlike the FT-16, there seems to be no way to change from the standard system, to Godox's slightly odd stepping system used in their strobes. On the FT-16, this was achieved by holding the set button for 2 seconds, while I've searched, and searched on the X1 and found nothing. Am I missing something, or is this a known "feature"? It seems strange that Godox would not make their system backwards compatible with their strobes, though the release of their new QT-600II shows that they're planning on standardising soon.

To that end, if any Godox-linked people are listening (though I realise they probably aren't), it would be lovely if we could set one or more (heck, I'd settle for all) of the groups to support the stepping mode (5.0-10) found on my GT Series strobes (please)! Otherwise, I agree totally with what you're saying here Rand! These are all features that would make what promises to be a great system system sooo much more user-friendly for us studio photographers...

For now, it's back to the FT-16 so I can have some control, until either I can (fully) control my strobes like I can with the FT trigger, or until I can afford to upgrade to a QT-600II/AD600B combo.


Let's see if they are listening! ;-)a

CFn10 :00 1/3 stop & :01 .1 stop.

Problem solved. Next?

CFn11 ?


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Mar 22, 2016 10:43 |  #34

So far the Sony TTL version is working on the TT685xS and after the feedback is all in the next item for Sony will be the v860xs then the X-1s and the 360xs. So hopefully the Sony X-system will be in full production with in a few months.
Did have some banding at 1/4000 hope they will fix the timing issue.


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Mar 22, 2016 16:43 |  #35

New v2 X-1 Trigger and receiver full I-TTL pass thru on the X-1 and Full I-TTL 2.4 throw receiver confirmed today. Seem the D700 /D750 models have a problem activation of the AF beam. The D800 had no problems activation of the AF beam on the X-1


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Mar 22, 2016 17:50 |  #36

abbadon31 wrote in post #17944771 (external link)
New v2 X-1 Trigger and receiver full I-TTL pass thru on the X-1 and Full I-TTL 2.4 throw receiver confirmed today. Seem the D700 /D750 models have a problem activation of the AF beam. The D800 had no problems activation of the AF beam on the X-1

Shom,
Please be clear whether this is physical connection pass thru or is the shoe on top of the X-1 controlling an attached speedlite as though it is a Gr A (or whatever) slave.

Generally, I think we should reserve "pass thru" to mean a physical connection that makes the speedlite on top of the trigger the controlling device talking directly to the camera for TTL communications.

If the X-1 trigger is the controlling device communicating with the camera to control TTL then its top hotshoe, if used, has to have its functionality clearly defined and explained.


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Mar 22, 2016 18:29 |  #37

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Shom,
Please be clear whether this is physical connection pass thru or is the shoe on top of the X-1 controlling an attached speedlite as though it is a Gr A (or whatever) slave.

Generally, I think we should reserve "pass thru" to mean a physical connection that makes the speedlite on top of the trigger the controlling device talking directly to the camera for TTL communications.

If the X-1 trigger is the controlling device communicating with the camera to control TTL then its top hotshoe, if used, has to have its functionality clearly defined and explained.

Full pass thru meaning the flash is communicating to the camera while seated on the x-1 like it would if the x-1 was not in between.


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Mar 22, 2016 19:02 |  #38

abbadon31 wrote in post #17944771 (external link)
New v2 X-1 Trigger and receiver full I-TTL pass thru on the X-1 and Full I-TTL 2.4 throw receiver confirmed today. Seem the D700 /D750 models have a problem activation of the AF beam. The D800 had no problems activation of the AF beam on the X-1

Sounds interesting. Though I rarely, if ever use the AF assist on my D750. With the central focal point focussing down to -3EV, it's normally not needed. Besides, if it can't focus without it, I'd normally manually focus, anyway.


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Mar 22, 2016 19:11 |  #39

Hi all.

Just used my X1 stuff on a low-stress job today and found a bug:

The AD360's ready "beep" is effectively disabled when the flash is used with an XTR-16 receiver triggered by a X1T-C.

One can set the beep to On on the back of the flash, but as soon as the X1T-C sends any signal to the flash, the beeper is turned off.

Does anyone know if this info has been previously documented and / or communicated to the Godox firmware folks?

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Mar 22, 2016 19:15 |  #40

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Hi all.

Just used my X1 stuff on a low-stress job today and found a bug:

The AD360's ready "beep" is effectively disabled when the flash is used with an XTR-16 receiver triggered by a X1T-C.

One can set the beep to On on the back of the flash, but as soon as the X1T-C sends any signal to the flash, the beeper is turned off.

Does anyone know if this info has been previously documented and / or communicated to the Godox firmware folks?

Thanks,

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The AD360's beep? I am about deaf so not an issue for me but, my understanding is that Godox is aware of this and they have their best and brightest working on it.


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Mar 22, 2016 19:54 as a reply to  @ agv8or's post |  #41

Ready-beeps are not generally a huge issue for me either, but today it kinda would have been helpful.

I was shooting a person who was moderately self-conscious in front of the camera, and who had one "go-to" facial expression that quite frankly I wished she would not go to. So, I was doing the click - chat - click-click - chat thing. Trouble was I was using HSS at 1/2 power ergo non-instantaneous recycle. I could have incorporated that beep-info into the whole schmooze-refocus-shoot timing equation. But it all worked out ok, and I got my first-ever look at the thermometer icon on the Godox...

Good to know the engineers know about it.

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Mar 22, 2016 21:13 |  #42

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Ready-beeps are not generally a huge issue for me either, but today it kinda would have been helpful.

I was shooting a person who was moderately self-conscious in front of the camera, and who had one "go-to" facial expression that quite frankly I wished she would not go to. So, I was doing the click - chat - click-click - chat thing. Trouble was I was using HSS at 1/2 power ergo non-instantaneous recycle. I could have incorporated that beep-info into the whole schmooze-refocus-shoot timing equation. But it all worked out ok, and I got my first-ever look at the thermometer icon on the Godox...

Good to know the engineers know about it.

Thanks,

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I am not sure if the engineers know about but the "best and brightest" do. :-)


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Mar 22, 2016 21:40 |  #43

abbadon31 wrote in post #17944905 (external link)
Full pass thru meaning the flash is communicating to the camera while seated on the x-1 like it would if the x-1 was not in between.

OK,
Good to know.


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Mar 22, 2016 21:53 as a reply to  @ dmward's post |  #44

abbadon31 wrote in post #17944905 (external link)
Full pass thru meaning the flash is communicating to the camera while seated on the x-1 like it would if the x-1 was not in between.

So to clarify (information gathered from various threads), this is the case for Nikon iTTL but not the case for Canon ETTL?




  
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Mar 23, 2016 00:14 as a reply to  @ feeda's post |  #45

My X1T-C units (version 1) are clearly not simply "passing through" the signals coming from the camera on to the flash attached to their hot shoe. For one thing, when powered off, the X1T-C doesn't appear to allow any signal at all through to an attached flash. Also, I have seen significant weirdness in the behaviour of a 600EX-RT mounted on an X1T-C, so the trigger is clearly doing some interpretation / creative thinking.

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